I've made up my mind about SVG. I don't like him.

[fuz]

Would someone please post a link (or links) to the articles that supposedly prove that the team doesn't listen to SVG? This seems like it would really have to be insider information for it to be true... something that many claim to have, but few truly do.

Also.... just because something is written, doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

[NEM]

I think he's a really good x's and o's coach. I really do, and I think he's done a good job with time outs and he's shown good emotion on the sidelines this year at times at least. But the way he treats his players irks me. People write articles about how Orlando players don't listen to him, well why should they? Why should they be confident in him when he shows no confidence in them. He continues to punish players with DNP's. When he was just doing ti to J.J I could understand. But when Nelson got hit with several DNP's the red flag went up for me. I asked myself two questions, was Nelson playing well enough to start? And, was he playing well enough to come off the bench? The answer to the first question was touchy, leaning towards no. But the answer to the second question was a defeinitive yes. I mean it shouldn't even be asked. By not playing him, he showed him that he doesn't believe in him. It KILLS a players confidence. Everyone goes through slumps. I don't care who you are. He's gotta let guys play through them. He also has to settle on a rotation and stick with it. An nba coach can't change his starting guards every two weeks and expect to have any success in the nba playoffs. It just won't happen.

I know the team is better, but I think that has more to do with having Lewis and Turk in the lineup then it does with having SVG at coach. I think with Brian Hill Orlando's not doing much worse then they are, mabye even a little bit better. I wasn't the biggest Brian Hill fan either. I should also tell you guys, i'm a Giants fan. I watched them all year and their coach stuck with them through the bad times. He didn't make big lineup changes when they struggled and they did struggle big time at the start of the season and at the half way point. And look at them now. Right now I see Orlando as mabye a team that wins in the first round but no way do can they play with Detriot or Boston. Just no way. Not with only 3 guys getting consistent minutes.

when you have 2 mediocre guards, yes you can

[SOUL]

Brian Hill would be able to make us beat Boston/Detroit

[Potterman]

If Nelson was as consistent as Turk or Lewis then there wouldnt be an issue with what's going on. Problem is that we get the most consistent play from Dooling as our PG and there is no way Stan would start him knowing that he is at best being the spark plug.

Arroyo and Nelson can shuffle like this for the remainder of the season I really don't care until one or both decide to become consistant threats.

[magicman123]

Brian Hill would be able to make us beat Boston/Detroit

he could put a lineup together of arroyo, garrity, hedo, augustine, foyle and still find a way to beat bos/det

[craig01]

Bad thread.

There are a few things about SVG that I find quirky, but hell, the guy is winning. Notice how few strategy issues that we have? especially from me?

The guy is doing a good job.

B Hill was miserable.

[Potterman]

Would someone please post a link (or links) to the articles that supposedly prove that the team doesn't listen to SVG? This seems like it would really have to be insider information for it to be true... something that many claim to have, but few truly do.

Also.... just because something is written, doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

The problem isn't with listening. Stan in his first regular season game with the Magic got upset with our bench players when we were up 20 asking the team who "Wants to play for 48 minutes". Now we all know he really didnt mean playing 48 minutes straight. But actually playing the game 48 minutes straight from start of the game to the end of the game.

Ya'know I really don't like the fact he doesn't play Auggie and JJ. But he found minutes for Cook and we do have a 32-19 record and we have won 6 of our last 9/10 or something like that...he is mixing the lineup when he gets inconsistant players...he is always playing players based on mismatches...he takes blame as a coach...what's else is there to hate?

[Hairy Midget]

SVG is a great coach. Anyone that thinks otherwise is either (Please Use More Appropriate Word) or severely (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

[MagicFan149]

svg is great! he actually calls out our best players (d12, hedo,shard) when the dont come with intenseity in a game. and he lets them know when theyve done good... jameer needed to be benched hes gotta get his head straight... and like it has been said when has hedo ever played like this in his career? were gonna prob win 50 games this year chill out... our future is bright

[magictreat]

I think he's a really good x's and o's coach. I really do, and I think he's done a good job with time outs and he's shown good emotion on the sidelines this year at times at least. But the way he treats his players irks me. People write articles about how Orlando players don't listen to him, well why should they? Why should they be confident in him when he shows no confidence in them. He continues to punish players with DNP's. When he was just doing ti to J.J I could understand. But when Nelson got hit with several DNP's the red flag went up for me. I asked myself two questions, was Nelson playing well enough to start? And, was he playing well enough to come off the bench? The answer to the first question was touchy, leaning towards no. But the answer to the second question was a defeinitive yes. I mean it shouldn't even be asked. By not playing him, he showed him that he doesn't believe in him. It KILLS a players confidence. Everyone goes through slumps. I don't care who you are. He's gotta let guys play through them. He also has to settle on a rotation and stick with it. An nba coach can't change his starting guards every two weeks and expect to have any success in the nba playoffs. It just won't happen.

I know the team is better, but I think that has more to do with having Lewis and Turk in the lineup then it does with having SVG at coach. I think with Brian Hill Orlando's not doing much worse then they are, mabye even a little bit better. I wasn't the biggest Brian Hill fan either. I should also tell you guys, i'm a Giants fan. I watched them all year and their coach stuck with them through the bad times. He didn't make big lineup changes when they struggled and they did struggle big time at the start of the season and at the half way point. And look at them now. Right now I see Orlando as mabye a team that wins in the first round but no way do can they play with Detriot or Boston. Just no way. Not with only 3 guys getting consistent minutes.

Your choice buddy, Brian Hill, Johnny Davis or VanGundy?? stop the crying those players, for the first time in a while have a coach that know his shiat, and will take them as far as they can go. The Magic players are been pampered for so long, and been without a real coach for so long, that they are mentally (Please Use More Appropriate Word) and soft, IMO.

[AdamTheGreek]

Any hate on SVG is blasphemous.
The man could literally be COY with the vast improvements made from last season.

[mhectorgato]

I like SVG*


* mhg reserves the right to change his opinion whenever he wants or when convenient.

[zuppafly]

Stan is probably the best coach this franchise ever had. I even put his abilities above the ones from Daly. Seriously, ho can you say you not like him after watching the Magic play over two years under Hill's "system" ?
Yes, I'd like to see more JJ and don't understand why Stan keeps him rotting on the bench, I get confuses at some of his rotations sometimes but hey, aren't why on the pace to tie one of the best regular seasons of this franchise? Aren't on pace to be 10+ wins better than last season? Wasn't Turk here last season but being completely wasted on Hill's "system" ?
Stan is the best thing this franchise did over the summer. (and I like Lewis a lot!)

[Happyfoosball]

It may be the unpopular opinion but I don't like him. I don't see any reason to lock the thread either, it's just an opinon. I don't believe that a team as young as Orlando can win in the playoffs without having a consistent guard rotation. I heard guys on ESPN say the same thing the first time they started mixing and matching guards. It's not an unpopular opinion outside of Orlando. The team is good, it's great to be 32-19 but in watching it this year it's clear to me that there is something wrong with the team. In addition to the constant mixing and matching of the guards,

If J.J isn't good enough to play then why not trade him? Other teams are making out like BANDITS via trades this time of year and Orlando has a need for a power forward. Any power forward who can actually rebound and play defense. If Stans so great then why doesn't he force the team to give Dwight the ball more? I just see too many problems for this team come playoff time. I think it's really possible for a low seeded team to get hot and bury them in the first round. That would be a huge blow for the Magic too. Right now thats where they could be headed, at best I see them done in the second round.

[drsd]

That the Magic are winning so many games with last second shots means that StM has a good ability to call one set play when the game is on the line. That's coaching!

[Optimus_Steel]

It may be the unpopular opinion but I don't like him. I don't see any reason to lock the thread either, it's just an opinon. I don't believe that a team as young as Orlando can win in the playoffs without having a consistent guard rotation. I heard guys on ESPN say the same thing the first time they started mixing and matching guards. It's not an unpopular opinion outside of Orlando. The team is good, it's great to be 32-19 but in watching it this year it's clear to me that there is something wrong with the team. In addition to the constant mixing and matching of the guards,

If J.J isn't good enough to play then why not trade him? Other teams are making out like BANDITS via trades this time of year and Orlando has a need for a power forward. Any power forward who can actually rebound and play defense. If Stans so great then why doesn't he force the team to give Dwight the ball more? I just see too many problems for this team come playoff time. I think it's really possible for a low seeded team to get hot and bury them in the first round. That would be a huge blow for the Magic too. Right now thats where they could be headed, at best I see them done in the second round.

Ask yourself this question: Why do you think that the guard rotation has been inconsistant? Because the guards are mediocre at best and thus tremendously inconsistant. And thats not Stan's fault, its just that they are not that talented. The one guy that could be a starter is Jameer but he has been all over the map. If say, we had a legit starter at SG, then you wouldnt see rotation changes with Mo and Bogans. And Mo seems to have stablized that starting SG spot for now. If Jameer was more consitant he wouldnt have been benched in favor of Arroyo. Arroyo is inconsistant. Dooling is not a good PG and is better suited for the bench. The center and fowards spots are set and never changed because there are legit consistant starters in each of those positions. If that was the case at the guards spot then you wouldnt see all the changes. I just dont see how Stan can be criticized for that, he is working with what he has.

[mhectorgato]

It may be the unpopular opinion but I don't like him. I don't see any reason to lock the thread either, it's just an opinon. I don't believe that a team as young as Orlando can win in the playoffs without having a consistent guard rotation. I heard guys on ESPN say the same thing the first time they started mixing and matching guards. It's not an unpopular opinion outside of Orlando. The team is good, it's great to be 32-19 but in watching it this year it's clear to me that there is something wrong with the team. In addition to the constant mixing and matching of the guards,

If J.J isn't good enough to play then why not trade him? Other teams are making out like BANDITS via trades this time of year and Orlando has a need for a power forward. Any power forward who can actually rebound and play defense. If Stans so great then why doesn't he force the team to give Dwight the ball more? I just see too many problems for this team come playoff time. I think it's really possible for a low seeded team to get hot and bury them in the first round. That would be a huge blow for the Magic too. Right now thats where they could be headed, at best I see them done in the second round.

Perhaps because other teams have clogged the lane doubling him as soon as he touches it most of the time?

[mfishy]

I think SVG uses the players the way he does because he was given a strange roster.

Dooling does not really have a position, but he can defend and is needed.

Arroyo looks good one night and just horrific the next.

Nelson...see above

Lewis is not a PF and he is forced to play him there since turk is now Kobe.

The SG's are so average he may not even know who is playing

Still, I wouldn't mind just going with Nelson as the starter and seeing what he does. He hasn't impressed me much of late, but he has some upside. If he could play a lick of defense I would be more enthused though.

[Happyfoosball]

For the record, I hope all of you are right and i'm wrong.

[N4U|Redux]

SVG > George Bush

SVG for president.