Unnecessary Technical Fouls Being Called?

CupcakeNoFillin · Post #1 » by **CupcakeNoFillin** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:42 am

Are the referees too soft nowadays? It seems like they don't let players react anymore and that the refs get their feelings hurt all the time.

Example:

I was watching a Warriors game and a ref called a foul on Mickael Pietrus. Pietrus was shocked that he got called for a foul, he looked at the replay on the jumbotron of the Oracle Arena and he pointed at it in shock. The ref called a technical foul on Pietrus for doing that.

Reggie Miller was broadcasting and he said the ref called a T because when Pietrus points at the jumbotron, he's making the crowd get loud. So basically when the ref called a T he meant, "Hey, don't point at the Jumbotron. I don't want the fans getting into it by booing me."

Is that a good reason to call a foul though. Don't get me wrong, i'm not complaining.. I can live with that call it's just that it seemed to have some awkward logic behind it.

Texas Longhorns · Post #2 » by **Texas Longhorns** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 5:44 am

I don't know if that's a good enough reason to call a technical. It could go as showing up an official somehow. Jackson needs to be careful though, he looks like he is about to pick up a 2nd technical. The Warriors need him if they want to win against CHI.

Mr. Savage · Post #3 » by **Mr. Savage** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:02 am

True. Nothing wrong with calling a tech on that. Pointing to the screen is just ostentation.

Patterns · Post #4 » by **Patterns** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:04 am

That's wrong to call a T on something like that. It's the Warriors' building and the players can utilize the big screen if they want to get THEIR crowd going.

That's a stupid T.

Post #5 » by **KF10** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:08 am

Yeah, that was a BS Tech...Like from a week ago or so when Artest received that BS 2nd Tech from Salvatore...(I hate that guy)

Mr. Savage · Post #6 » by **Mr. Savage** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:09 am

Patterns wrote:That's wrong to call a T on something like that. It's the Warriors' building and the players can utilize the big screen if they want to get THEIR crowd going.

That's a stupid T.

It is undermining the referees authority by being ostentatious.

In football, you get shown the yellow card if you sarcastically clap your hands after the ref made the call against you.

BruceO · Post #7 » by **BruceO** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:18 am

I watched that play. the refs called alot of stupid fouls on the warriors cause they were pissed. The pietrus foul for instance wasnt a foul by pietrus. Joe smith went up for the ball, Tyrus came from the baseline and grabbed the ball as well and his momentum dragged them both down.
SO whats the difference between saying ref I didnt do it and pointing to the jumbotron. If you as a ref didnt make a bad call the crowd won't react in a bad way. Don't get mad because theres proof you might have made a bad decision. In the second half alot of fouls were called that took the warriors out of the game.

Cruel_Ruin · Post #8 » by **Cruel_Ruin** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:29 am

The technical on Pietrus was ridiculous. But the technical on Jackson was deserved; he was acting like somebody shot his mother. In fact, I thought he should have been ejected, so it evens out.

Post #9 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 7:34 am

I think the league calls technicals really inappropriately. That was not a technical on Pietrus. It just wasn't. Call technicals when Kobe stays on offense complaining about a call. When you ostentatiously, but reasonably complain during a dead ball, I could care less. But with a fastbreak going the other way, it shouldn't even have to be SAID that the player needs to hustle back. Its pathetic sportsmanship, and its allowed in current rules.

scwarrior · Post #10 » by **scwarrior** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:00 pm

yeah, the pietrus tech was so dumb. and it mattered to the outcome of the game...

the warriors got called on SO MANY rediculous fouls during that game, near the end they got some calls...but the game was unwatchable due to the officiating

themaster07 · Post #11 » by **themaster07** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:10 pm

Here's another one. Kobe talking to some fan while handing the ball over to the ref. The ball is pushed into the ref's chest a little bit and he gets the T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPujQiKIzE

yehyeh82 · Post #12 » by **yehyeh82** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:16 pm

Honestly that whole sequence might have been the turning point in that game. The Warriors were going to get the ball back with the lead, then all of a sudden the Bulls got three unwarranted free-throws and had the lead. i don't think they lost the lead after that point as the Warriors started going crazy thinking they were getting hosed by the refs.

Sometimes Stephen Jackson and Baron need to cool it and just give the ball to Monta.

pace31 · Post #13 » by **pace31** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 9:54 pm

I don't think the Pietrus one was dumb. He wasn't trying to get the crowd fired up, he was trying to get them on the refs case. Jackson's especially was 100% deserved, he just wildly swing his fist and it was in the midst of a couple of Bulls players. He could've accidentally hit one of them.

meat tray · Post #14 » by **meat tray** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:27 pm

Ronnie Brewer got called for a BS technical foul the other day during the New Orleans game. Paul fouled Brewer and as he was coming down on him Brewer had his arm out to brace himself...get's a quck T called on him. I read something about it getting rescinded, but I'm not sure if it actually ever happened.

Dozer! · Post #15 » by **Dozer!** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:57 pm

Yeah that one on Brewer was weird. Guess the ref did'nt like the way he fell or something.

CITYOFANGELSX3 · Post #16 » by **CITYOFANGELSX3** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:04 pm

The Refs call technicals against the team there betting on.

KingOfTheCourt · Post #17 » by **KingOfTheCourt** » Fri Feb 8, 2008 11:15 pm

CITYOFANGELSX3 wrote:The Refs call technicals against the team there betting on.

Tim, is that you???

CupcakeNoFillin · Post #18 » by **CupcakeNoFillin** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:11 am

Guys I never mentioned Stephen Jackson in my first post, I don't know why people here keep pointing out that Jackson's technical was deserved. I'm pretty sure Jackson DID deserve that technical, but i'm not complaining about it... i'm just talking about the Pietrus technical.

I JUST DON'T GET WHY Mickael Pietrus got that technical. He was pointing at the Jumbotron, OK what's wrong with that?

What's the point of even showing replays on jumbotrons if the players can't even point at it to show the fans? Is it illegal to tell fans to look at the replay that was obviously there to be seen in the first place?

That's why in my first post, I asked if you guys think that refs are too soft nowadays. It's as if they're not men, they're like little kids who get butthurt if they feel like anyone is against them. Joey Crawford gave Tim Duncan a technical because he laughed at him. Ok, people get laughed at all the time, why call a technical?

And if the crowd is AGAINST a call of yours, why would you call a technical on a player because they got the crowd pumped up? That's a part of the game, if you're a ref you have to be immune to that type of atmosphere... NO ONE will expect all of your calls to be RIGHT, so don't get all butthurt if you realize that the crowd doesn't like the call you made.

Post #19 » by **Basti** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:14 am

themaster07 wrote:Here's another one. Kobe talking to some fan while handing the ball over to the ref. The ball is pushed into the ref's chest a little bit and he gets the T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPujQiKIzE

Philly Fresh · Post #20 » by **Philly Fresh** » Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:33 am

The refs always act like soft b*tches, handing out technicals whenever they feel offended. If a controversial call was made (or not made), wouldn't you expect a player to get emotional and complain? They're not robots, they will get upset and angry when they don't get the calls that should have been made. People say that they get techs for undermining the refs. Yea, so? It's not like refs always make the right call.

I think the refs need to stop acting like soft girls and let players show their emotion. Of course there's a limit, but there's also something called being reasonable.