Can Moon really take off a couple of steps behind the foul line and dunk? Watch for yourself and decide. Don't know about you, but my excitement level for the Sprite Slam Dunk contest is inversely proportional to Tom Brady's anticipation for the release of the "Super Bowl XLII: A Giant Upset" video by NFL Films this Spring.
Rookie Rankings 02.07.2008
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Rookie Rankings 02.07.2008
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Rookie Rankings 02.07.2008
Moon Climbs Back To #3
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Horford should be above Durant.
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A guy with 10 more ppg will never lose out to a guy with 5 more rpg.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
lol go chuck!
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Slam Dunk! wrote:K-Dur being number one for averaging just under 20PPG shooting terrible percentages on a losing team baffles me.
So you'd give it to the guy averaging ~10 boards and less than 10ppg on a losing team?
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Durrant is a chucker who misses way too much and has less EFF than Horford. Horford #1, Moon #2, Durrant #3.
Moon's offensive numbers are decent enough for a defensive specialist. His importance to a good team is more relevant than Durrant's importance to a bad team. Best of all Moon's impact per $ has to be the best in the league.
Moon's offensive numbers are decent enough for a defensive specialist. His importance to a good team is more relevant than Durrant's importance to a bad team. Best of all Moon's impact per $ has to be the best in the league.
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sh00n wrote:Atlanta has a shot at the playoffs, Seattle doesn't.
And? That means 9/10 is somehow going to get more votes than 19/5? Being a good rebounder won't win you an award. Ever.
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Fairview4Life wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
And? That means 9/10 is somehow going to get more votes than 19/5? Being a good rebounder won't win you an award. Ever.
19/5 on 40% shooting while taking 19 shots a game isnt exactly efficient.
I'll take the 9/10 player who plays great man to man defense anytime..
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jeff1624 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
19/5 on 40% shooting while taking 19 shots a game isnt exactly efficient.
I'll take the 9/10 player who plays great man to man defense anytime..
That's the smart fan's opinion. That's not how the ROY award works, though. Which is Fairview's point. Winning the ROY is more about scoring stats than anything else, usually.
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Jeff, don't underestimate the importance of star power on ROY voting.
Media members tend to vote for players who they envision as the best player from that rookie class provided their rookie season is comparable to another rookie who has less potential.
The most recent example is the ROY voting in 2003-2004. LeBron easily won ROY with 78 out of 118 first place votes despite having arguably worse statistics than Melo and failing to make the playoffs. Melo helped Denver make the playoffs for the first time in TEN years.
To compare, Melo finished with 36.5 mins, 42.6% FG%, 77.7% FT%, 21.0 PPG, 6.1 REB, 2.8 AST, 1.2 STL, 0.5 BLK, 3.0 TO versus LeBron
at 39.5 mins, 41.7% shooting, 75.4% FT%, 20.9 PPG, 5.5 REB, 5.9 AST, 1.6 STL, 0.7 BLK, 3.5 TO.
No one could deny the future superstardom of LeBron though, which is why there was minimal controversy over the snub.
As a voting media member, you don't want to be responsible for selecting a rookie with inflated numbers who is outclassed for the remainder of his career. I don't think anyone can make the case that Kevin Durant is and will be a worse overall player than any other active player in the current draft class.
Media members tend to vote for players who they envision as the best player from that rookie class provided their rookie season is comparable to another rookie who has less potential.
The most recent example is the ROY voting in 2003-2004. LeBron easily won ROY with 78 out of 118 first place votes despite having arguably worse statistics than Melo and failing to make the playoffs. Melo helped Denver make the playoffs for the first time in TEN years.
To compare, Melo finished with 36.5 mins, 42.6% FG%, 77.7% FT%, 21.0 PPG, 6.1 REB, 2.8 AST, 1.2 STL, 0.5 BLK, 3.0 TO versus LeBron
at 39.5 mins, 41.7% shooting, 75.4% FT%, 20.9 PPG, 5.5 REB, 5.9 AST, 1.6 STL, 0.7 BLK, 3.5 TO.
No one could deny the future superstardom of LeBron though, which is why there was minimal controversy over the snub.
As a voting media member, you don't want to be responsible for selecting a rookie with inflated numbers who is outclassed for the remainder of his career. I don't think anyone can make the case that Kevin Durant is and will be a worse overall player than any other active player in the current draft class.