Deep Sixer PF Options

[The Sixer Fixer]

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So forget what I posted 'cause those rumors are put to rest. Again though, the fact that Okafor didn't sign an extension at least raises the chance that Charlotte might not be willing to break the bank for him.

I think Charlotte was looking at things the same way we were with Iguodala and Chicago was with their 2 RFA's. No reason to throw them a big offer a year before you need to. Unless you are getting a bargain on a guy, it probably pays to wait on the signing...especially when you have a guy like Okafor who sees himself as a max (or near max) guy...not like his asking price can go up much over the next year....better chance it may go down if the market for him isn't there. Right now, the only scenario I see with him NOT being back in Charlotte next year would be if he's part of a S/T for another talented PF or C.

[SendEm]

Would anyone do this sign and trade?
Iggy + Jason Smith
for
Okafor + garbage player

[STChaser]

I personally like Iguodala being part of our long term solution. One thing that worried me last year was his jumper and he's most definitely improved this aspect of his game. I see no reason he can't continue to improve. Is he a go-to-guy on offense? Not in my opinion because I think although he's athletic and strong, he lacks a quick first step (something I never see him developing). But so long as Lou Williams becomes our starting PG, we don't need Iguodala to be the go-to-guy. Besides, if you surround him with Thaddeus, Lou, and a PF like Smith or Okafor, you don't need him to be that guy.

On the subject of Brandan Wright, is he even available and if so, for what price?

STChaser

[STChaser]

Talk about coincidence. Here's some posts from Warriors fans who want to trade Wright for Villanueva because they think Wright is a bust.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post ... 64056&cp=3

STChaser

[Mahorn at the 4]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

a 3 way with Clev and GS

we get Pietrus, Wright, fillers
GS- Gooden and a 1st from GS
Clev- Miller

Would Gooden not be a good fit in GS at the 4/5 in their run and gun?

We get a prospect at the 4, cap space and a trade tool in Pietrus for the summer.

Clev adds the final piece for their team. If they need size to replace Gooden, we can add Evans and take back more expirings.

[STChaser]

Sounds good to me!

STChaser

[The Guilty Party]

I actually created that in the Trade Checker earlier today and just didn't feel like posting it. I believe Cleveland would need to throw Newble our way to make the deal work but that's certainly not going to stop this from happening.

[STChaser]

Ok, TGP and Mahorn,
What is the deal with Wright? Does he look legit or does he really look like the bust that these Warrior fans were claiming he is? His 3.1 PPG and 2.2 RPG don't immediately spark excitement but then again, he's only getting 7.1 MPG. Coming into the draft, he was compared to Chris Bosh and Shareef. Either the scouts got this kid completely wrong or he's not being used properly. One issue I immediately see is that he's only listed as weighing 200 lbs and yet he's 6'10!

http://www.insidebayarea.com/turn2/ci_8194142

STChaser

[cx09]

honest question, not trying to doubt anyone's assessment:

what is so attractive about wright? honestly i don't think i've seen him play yet, and everything i've read has expressed disappointment or ambivalence about him..

Edit:

lol@ asking the same thing as the post above 1 minute earlier

[The Guilty Party]

Here's the deal with Brandan Wright....

He came into UNC with huge expectations on him. For the first half of the college season... the talk was that the '07 draft would have a Big 3. Oden... Durant... and Wright. Wright had a good freshmen college season but he didn't dominate the way Durant and Oden did so his name was dropped from that discussion and in the end, he slipped all the way down to #8.

On draft night, Golden State worked out the trade with Charlotte in which they would send JRich to Chalotte and Charlotte was supposed to take Al Thornton with the 8th pick. Something happened with the phone systems in Charlotte right before the pick so they went ahead and took the BPA, Brandan Wright. GSW still went through with the trade because they NEED the trade exception they got from the deal in order to re-sign Biedrins and Ellis this summer.

So now we have the following situation. We have Nelly who apparently doesn't like to play his rookies (remember when Bellinellii was supposed to come in and set the league on fire) and we have GSW who has a somewhat raw 20 year old PF that they never really wanted rotting on their bench.

As for his game, Wright is an efficient scorer who needs to add some weight to his frame and some length to his shot. Defensively the kid is a shotblocker and has a chance to develop into something special.

Wright's problem is some of the younger guys who come into the league somehow have the body of a 28 year old and make instant impacts. Wright is a kid who needs a chance to develop on a team the same way Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, and Chris Bosh has.

[The Guilty Party]

By the way, the fans for GSW seem pretty high on Wright as well. There's a thread on the GSW board..

http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=757583&start=0

... in which they talk about the only way they will trade Wright is for Durant or Beasley. Granted, GSW fans tend to be some of more insane homers on this site but the fact that the fanbase is still high on him tells me that he must be showing flashes.

[freshie2]

Blatch is still a lottery ticket at this point. I liek the possibilities but I'm getting tired of upside to be honest

Good comparison...some nights you get 2/5 numbers, sometimes 3/5, very rarely 4/5, but you like the numbers enough to hold out hoping to see 5/5.

We've probably all won a little money at some point. A few more have won a larger amount to where maybe you paid for a vacation. Probably none of us have won enough to buy a house or two.

Blatche now is somewhere between pocket change and Disney World, and probably will end up between a Maui vacation and a condo. 20/10 is definitely possible, but there still is a lot of work to be done.

[LieCheatSteal]

We have this PF discussion once a week.

Gooden- yes, for Miller perhaps. But Miller's expiring may be more valuable.

Okafor- yes. This team might have a shot at him but teams like Memphis and now Miami now has cap space. Also, if Brand opts out, the Clippers will have cap space for him too. So, there's competition for him.

CV- he's a good player. An upgrade from Evans. Yeah, he's soft but, from what I remember from his Raptor days, he can dominate. He'll need a good smack in the face once in a while to get with it though. I'll do that for free.

Smith- he's not a traditional PF. The question is will the Sixers actually adjust to accomodate him at that position.

Blatche- Washington doesn't have to move him at all. He's locked into a decent contract and they're in danger of losing Jamison so he's definitely untouchable.

What about Marion? Again not a PF but talented as hell. Could be a good fit beside Sam. However, you'd have to question his desire to win, considering how he walked away from Phoenix to go to Miami.

[drewfogarty]

I think I'm getting back on the Brandan Wright bandwagon. The kid is 20 years old and could/should be the long term answer to the PF spot here. Acquiring him now or before the draft would enable the Sixers to make PG the top item on our summer shopping list.

PG: Miller (for now)
SG: Iguodala
SF: Young
PF: Wright
C: Dalembert

wright is a liability on the court at the end of the game. his is terrible at the foul line. if you look back at UNC's stats last year and realize if Wright hit 60-70% of his FT's they woud have won a number of games they lost. The 76ers have a nice base to build on. I don't think he will "add to the team" enough. If he gets his act together, perhaps we should consider it, but the 76ers should really make sure that Young's development is not hindered by who they bring in (the team doesn't need any distractions).

If we get CV on the team he would need a lesson on what PF means (cut down on the 3pt shots). we really need a classic low post player. Gooden would be ok, but he is no superstar.

sorry I have no great suggestions on who to get (aside from a couple of good PF's in the draft that will be gone by the time the 76ers pick comes up).

[The Guilty Party]

Your review of Wright is fine and all that... but he's 20 years old and his game today is not a finished product with holes that won't be addressed.

I'm at a total loss as to what we can/will do to address the PF issue. I just hope that it does get addressed this summer and doesn't get put off any longer.

[SendEm]

Wright UNLIKE Thad Young can not contribute to an NBA team right now. He's not worthy of any minutes in an NBA game. He was drafted on pure potential.

[STChaser]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... ral_teams/

Something many of us may have overlooked. What about Jermaine O'neal? The Pacers want to move him and Miller would definitely be an upgrade at the PG position (though OBrien loves guys with range and Miller doesn't have it). I'm not saying I'd personally want to take the gamble on him due to his injury issues, etc. but I wonder if Stefanski would? How would he fit next to Sam? Seems like he's be pretty good (if healthy) in a lineup of:

Lou Williams
Andre Iguodala
Thaddeus Young
J. Oneal
Sam

I'd rather have a younger, healthier prospect at the PF like Okafor or Smith but there is something to be said for J Oneal. And the fact that we're not entirely out of the playoff hunt may make Stefanski think twice about getting a proven PF now rather than waiting until the offseason.

STChaser

[The Guilty Party]

And the fact that we're not entirely out of the playoff hunt may make Stefanski think twice about getting a proven PF now rather than waiting until the offseason.

I see this going the other way. Because we are IN the playoff hunt, I think Stefanski is less likely to tinker with the team. If he trades Miller for O'Neal he shakes things up in a major way and the team may fall out of the hunt. Keep in mind that O'Neal isn't all that healthy and acquiring him means that Thad would probably find his way back to the bench since Willie Green has photos of Ed Snider doing bad things with a monkey.

[The Sixer Fixer]

We have this PF discussion once a week.

Gooden- yes, for Miller perhaps. But Miller's expiring may be more valuable.

Actually, Gooden will expire at the same time as Miller. Not saying I would do the deal, but long term this would have about the same impact if it's about having cap space in 2009. Gooden's deal is slightly smaller, but that might actually make him easier to include in a deal. Persoanlly, I'm not a Gooden fan.

Okafor- yes. This team might have a shot at him but teams like Memphis and now Miami now has cap space. Also, if Brand opts out, the Clippers will have cap space for him too. So, there's competition for him.

Miami doesn't have any more cap space than they had before the trade, unless Marion opts out. It's far from a sure thing that will happen.

What about Marion? Again not a PF but talented as hell. Could be a good fit beside Sam. However, you'd have to question his desire to win, considering how he walked away from Phoenix to go to Miami.

The interesting thing about Marion is now that he is out of Phoenix, we can evaluate how he performs in a more traditional offense. This will give a good indicator as to whether or not his #'s were jusr inflated playing in the run and gun system.

[The Guilty Party]

I'd like to see if Stefanski could get Tyrus Thomas on the cheap before the deadline. I don't believe in my heart of hearts that he's the answer at PF but I think the Sixers have an interesting collection of players that can get out and run with just about anyone and so I'd like to see Thomas running and gunning in the following lineup...

Williams
Iguodala
Thad
Thomas
Dalembert

If we're going to be a mediocre team... why not make it a fun one to watch?