That's because David Stern keeps presenting the NBA as some watered down, candy coated, goodie two shoes league and he kills it. WTF, he makes the NBA seem like it's a SHOW instead of a COMPETITION.
Look at my thread about the unnecessary technical fouls being called.
Players can't play like men anymore, you breathe on someone and a foul will be called. There's no f*ckin rivalries in the NBA anymore. Where's that INTENSE atmosphere where two rivals play against each other going crazy?
Where caring happens
Where amazing happens
Where good luck next round happens
Where tomorrow happens
Where are you kidding me happens
Where wearing the dream happens
Man that sh*t will get played out QUICK. Especially if they keep using the same piano song over and over and over and over.
Just market the game as a grimey sport where REAL competition and rivalries LIVE. There's more you can add to that but right now others view the game as a sport for wussies. A no contact sport because of all the homo fouls being called. Floppers everywhere. "We're the NBA! Look at how our players are friendly and look at all these smiles and laughs. Watch Shaq in a dance off with Dwight Howard!" (WTF. Where's the competitive atmosphere at!).
Don't get me wrong, I don't HATE the game. I love it it's just that it's being presented in a rainbow way.
EDIT: This is the type of **** that David Stern is approving. This is basically what our NBA is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPujQiKIzE
NBA's always playing second fiddle to other sports
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greenbeans wrote:also, my long held belief on this topic is that the NBA has to contract 2-4 teams.
this year your seeing how fun it is when theres actually some *quality* depth on the contenders. i think if you did that(contraction) there would be a LOT more interest from the national, casual fan. its a hell alot easier to root for a team where the 2nd star is Chris Paul compared to Josh Smith(sorry Atlanta, just an example).
That makes no sense.
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greenbeans wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
well i was trying to say the leagues too mediocre. you cut out 2 teams and voila! the product isnt so watered down. if you had more great teams you get more fans, its pretty simple imo
I was talking more about your comparison. Josh Smith would be the 2nd best playeron a lt of teams. He's an absolute monster. You could have come up with several better examples.
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CupcakeNoFillin wrote:That's because David Stern keeps presenting the NBA as some watered down, candy coated, goodie two shoes league and he kills it. WTF, he makes the NBA seem like it's a SHOW instead of a COMPETITION.
Look at my thread about the unnecessary technical fouls being called.
Players can't play like men anymore, you breathe on someone and a foul will be called. There's no f*ckin rivalries in the NBA anymore. Where's that INTENSE atmosphere where two rivals play against each other going crazy?
Where caring happens
Where amazing happens
Where good luck next round happens
Where tomorrow happens
Where are you kidding me happens
Where wearing the dream happens
Man that sh*t will get played out QUICK. Especially if they keep using the same piano song over and over and over and over.
Just market the game as a grimey sport where REAL competition and rivalries LIVE. There's more you can add to that but right now others view the game as a sport for wussies. A no contact sport because of all the homo fouls being called. Floppers everywhere. "We're the NBA! Look at how our players are friendly and look at all these smiles and laughs. Watch Shaq in a dance off with Dwight Howard!" (WTF. Where's the competitive atmosphere at!).
Don't get me wrong, I don't HATE the game. I love it it's just that it's being presented in a rainbow way.
EDIT: This is the type of **** that David Stern is approving. This is basically what our NBA is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYPujQiKIzE
That happened two years ago. Jeez.
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There are alot of reasons. First, the NBA just isn't as popular overall as baseball and football. I think there is alot of things that could change the game for the better.
In baseball they don't have a salary cap and teams can spend as they wish. In football, you don't have garunteed contracts which means the player has to constantly perform to his best. In basketball, if you have one good year as a contract year, you're going to get a 5 year deal worth 40 mill. So for the next 5 years a team is stuck with a player that underperforms. It gets very old.
Second, the games just seem like they play absouletly no defense. I know offense is important, but teams need to start concentrating on defense, which it seems none do. The star players take it easy on defense and play the worst player 90% of the time. College games are much more fun to watch come March Madness because teams are always keyed in on defense. Teams are always moving there feet, crashing the O boards hard, and not getting any easy shots at all. Games are much more intense and they always seem to come down to the last minute.
In baseball and football star players are on the move quite a bit more then in the NBA. That makes the offseasons more exciting. In the NBA teams are giving out 3-4-5 year contracts worth 30 and 40 million to role players that should be making about 3-4 million a year. They give out those absurd contracts because they only have caproom in the offseason every few years, and because if they don't give out those absurd contracts to medicore role players the team will take a big hit.
It also will never change until something gets changed with the refs as well. Teams can't player anymore D because the refs will call cheap ridiculous fouls 90% of the time. The refs need stop bailing teams and players out of situations time after time. Playing D is a part of the game, the most important part at that. With all these stupidass rules they put in, teams can't play D without fouling somebody every time down the court.
In baseball they don't have a salary cap and teams can spend as they wish. In football, you don't have garunteed contracts which means the player has to constantly perform to his best. In basketball, if you have one good year as a contract year, you're going to get a 5 year deal worth 40 mill. So for the next 5 years a team is stuck with a player that underperforms. It gets very old.
Second, the games just seem like they play absouletly no defense. I know offense is important, but teams need to start concentrating on defense, which it seems none do. The star players take it easy on defense and play the worst player 90% of the time. College games are much more fun to watch come March Madness because teams are always keyed in on defense. Teams are always moving there feet, crashing the O boards hard, and not getting any easy shots at all. Games are much more intense and they always seem to come down to the last minute.
In baseball and football star players are on the move quite a bit more then in the NBA. That makes the offseasons more exciting. In the NBA teams are giving out 3-4-5 year contracts worth 30 and 40 million to role players that should be making about 3-4 million a year. They give out those absurd contracts because they only have caproom in the offseason every few years, and because if they don't give out those absurd contracts to medicore role players the team will take a big hit.
It also will never change until something gets changed with the refs as well. Teams can't player anymore D because the refs will call cheap ridiculous fouls 90% of the time. The refs need stop bailing teams and players out of situations time after time. Playing D is a part of the game, the most important part at that. With all these stupidass rules they put in, teams can't play D without fouling somebody every time down the court.
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Yeah that probably is a contributor, but not for those reasons. In baseball the big markets can always have better teams than everyone else, whereas in basketball you can't get a big edge by having more money.Wade2k6 wrote:In baseball they don't have a salary cap and teams can spend as they wish. In football, you don't have garunteed contracts which means the player has to constantly perform to his best. In basketball, if you have one good year as a contract year, you're going to get a 5 year deal worth 40 mill. So for the next 5 years a team is stuck with a player that underperforms. It gets very old.
Second, the games just seem like they play absouletly no defense. I know offense is important, but teams need to start concentrating on defense, which it seems none do. The star players take it easy on defense and play the worst player 90% of the time. College games are much more fun to watch come March Madness because teams are always keyed in on defense. Teams are always moving there feet, crashing the O boards hard, and not getting any easy shots at all. Games are much more intense and they always seem to come down to the last minute.
hah we all know a lack of defense is really making the ratings low... These all-offense teams like the Spurs-Pistons-Cavs have been dragging the ratings down like crazy. Meanwhile noone likes to see the defensive juggernaut Suns. There is a segment of the college fan population that tries to take every opportunity to convince people that the NBA players dont care and have no heart, and it works. I used to be an NCAA fan only til I saw through the lies and realized how much better the NBA was to watch. College atmosphere is the only thing it has going for it. As an ACC fan that sees my team play in Cameron Indoor Stadium quite often reffing is just as bad in NCAA.
Maybe it's just that people in the USA right now don't want to like the NBA for whatever reason (I think we all know why some ppl don't like the NBA). There's not really anything practical for them to do about it, and it's not a longterm problem, so they shouldn't bend over backwards to make people like the basketball in the world.
NBA is playing second fiddle... second fiddle to the Premier League in worldwide popularity. Not bad.