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Post#21 » by Rickdiculous » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:49 pm

Thad at PF would only mean management failed at filling in the PF spot. Thad has the perfect ingredients to be a pretty good sf in this league; Lets hope he stays there and we get that PF.
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Post#22 » by 76erinSJ » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:55 pm

Good old Sendem. If he chose to look at the stats he would see that Iggy shoots better at SG then he does at SF. Also read his post before you start changing what he said. You are obnoxious.
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Post#23 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:56 pm

Rickdiculous wrote:Lets hope he stays there and we get that PF.


Agreed but the odds of us getting that PF aren't as great as they were when we entered this season, unfortunately.
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Post#24 » by tk76 » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:57 pm

I have no problem with Thad being of PF when we go small (maybe 20 min/game.) If we are going against a team with an unathletic bigger frontcourt we may be able to force one of their bigs off the floor by going with Thad at PF- disrupting their offense.

We need a bigger PF for the majority of the time and for when we are going against bigger athletic teams (and Thad would shift to SF.) Hopefully, Thad can be like a Marion, who shifts seemlessly from PF to SF depending onwhat the team needs to get a match up advantage.
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Post#25 » by Gsraider » Fri Feb 8, 2008 10:59 pm

Rickdiculous wrote:Thad at PF would only mean management failed at filling in the PF spot. Thad has the perfect ingredients to be a pretty good sf in this league; Lets hope he stays there and we get that PF.


While I would generally lean in this direction, I'm not completely sold either. From a PF perspective, when I look at Young, I see a guy with broad shoulders and the frame to put on more bulk. I also see a guy that is very instinctual around the basket for rebounds and putbacks. Finally, I see a guy that has a pretty poor handle, which will need to be vastly improved in order to reach his full potential as a SF.

Of course, unless he grows another inch or two, he would be undersized from a height perspective and may not be able to put the weight on that he would need even if his frame suggests that he might be able to. He also might be underutilized at the PF spot if he improves his handle and outside shot.

In the end, perhaps Young might be best served as a combination forward, who can play both spots.
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Re: Is Thad The Future PF?? 

Post#26 » by corwin » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:18 am

The Guilty Party wrote:I realize that we all want a traditional, dominant big man but that just might not be in the cards. Also I think most of us realize that Iguodala isn't going to make a great shooting guard since his outside shot isn't the greatest.

So with that in mind (and the fact that we've just about exhausted all chat topics about PFs), is it possible that Thad continues to grow into his role as starting PF while Iguodala stays as our starting SF? I'm not even sure who is available or who might be available but perhaps we would be better off trying to get a legit scorer at the 2 who can stretch the floor with the 3 ball and get out and run with the rest of our guys.

To some extent it depends on if he grows another inch or two. Thad has a nice inside game already & with Evans the rotation is not bad. IMO Iggy should stay at SF. The draft has loads of guards who could play the SG spot & there are couple good bigs who could back-up at center. Rose & Beasley are probably the top 2 players. After that Bayless, Mayo, or Gordon at SG would be nice additions. Griffin, Arthur & Lopez are good looking PFs. Jordan, Thabeet & Dorsey would fit well at C.
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Post#27 » by freshie2 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 1:46 am

Aren't Oden and Bynum American born centers? Given they both are in their early 20s, isn't the proclamation that Shaq, Ewing, and Hakeem are the last of the low post centers a bit premature?
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Post#28 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 9, 2008 2:35 am

freshie2 wrote:Aren't Oden and Bynum American born centers? Given they both are in their early 20s, isn't the proclamation that Shaq, Ewing, and Hakeem are the last of the low post centers a bit premature?


Those two players are nowhere near the level of potential that Hakeem, Shaq, and Ewing had during their own youth. Oden and Bynum would do good to be as good as Brad Daugherty and Mourning...
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Post#29 » by Mik317 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 3:51 am

Dwight Howard is a center guys....he is THE premier center in the league. Him, Yao and maybe Oden ( i think he going to be beastly). there were nevr that many great centers in the game at one tim. You had Wilt and Russel. Ewing and Hakeem. and Shaq and..............uh shaq. It's not going to change.
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Post#30 » by Sixersftw » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:27 am

somehow i think shaq, ewing, hakeem, and david robinson where all great centers playing at one time. i could be wrong.
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Post#31 » by bball4life » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:41 am

SendEm wrote:I Believe that quality low post Centers will no longer exist due to good American basketball players not growing as tall and the NBA game changing. But PF's will continue to exist. players like Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh will continue to come in the league and exist in the world. It's just hard to tell if they will develop or turn into Melvin Ely and Chris Wilcox. I believe that we have seen the last of players like Shaq, Ewing, and Hakeem.


Ummm, since when are Americans shrinking? Where do you come up with this ridiculous stuff?
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Post#32 » by UptownPhilly » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:45 am

SendEm wrote:I Believe that quality low post Centers will no longer exist due to good American basketball players not growing as tall and the NBA game changing. But PF's will continue to exist. players like Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh will continue to come in the league and exist in the world. It's just hard to tell if they will develop or turn into Melvin Ely and Chris Wilcox. I believe that we have seen the last of players like Shaq, Ewing, and Hakeem.


Ewing and Hakeem weren't born in America.
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Post#33 » by Mik317 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:04 am

I knew I forgot the Admiral....as for Shaq really wasn't OMFG Shaq until Hakeem and Ewing were older but yeah your right. still there usually never a lot of centers at one time usually just 2 or in that case 4.
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Post#34 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:48 am

Roletagg wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ewing and Hakeem weren't born in America.


Never said they were... :crazy:
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Post#35 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:53 am

Sixersftw wrote:somehow i think shaq, ewing, hakeem, and david robinson where all great centers playing at one time. i could be wrong.


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Post#36 » by barkley34 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 10:18 am

I think what happened was our young seven footers grew up watching Kevin Garnett and decided they wanted to play facing the basket like KG.

In the last couple of years though the league has been fortunate we now have several young players with traditional post games. Al Jefferson,Howard, Bynum & Oden. It is good for the league to have all these talented young big men at the same time and if they all reach their potential our Olympic teams will be dominating again as well.
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Post#37 » by 76ciology » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:25 am

Honestly, I have already posted an idea of Thad playing the PF before. And many people do like that idea. I like the idea of him playing the PF position, because this can hide his ball handling weakness. I think that he can play PF position from time to time. If you want a good image of how our team will be look like with him playing the PF position, try looking at how GSW is with Al Harrington at the PF position. It creates a lot of problems for the opposing teams, but it also creates a lot of problems for GSW, especially defensively.
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Post#38 » by freshie2 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 12:04 pm

SendEm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Those two players are nowhere near the level of potential that Hakeem, Shaq, and Ewing had during their own youth. Oden and Bynum would do good to be as good as Brad Daugherty and Mourning...


Good point...nobody heard of Oden until this year...kind of like Lebron. No potential so he flew under the radar.

Oden's potential pre knee injury is as high as any of the guys you mentioned. He's better with both hands than any of them at the same age, and has great defensive timing. He may not have 35/15 numbers, but he's a 25/12 player when he reaches his prime.
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Re: Is Thad The Future PF?? 

Post#39 » by sec-106 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 4:12 pm

The Guilty Party wrote:

Miller/Williams
?????/Green
Iguodala/Carney
Young/Smith
Dalembert/Booth/Hill



Mike Miller would be a good fit in that lineup.

Does Redd makes too much?

Do you throw a ton of cash at Gilbert?

Or Deng and move AI2 to SG?

Take a shot at trading for Hamilton?

Or Joe Johnson?


Should be a wild summer.
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Post#40 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 9, 2008 10:19 pm

freshie2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Good point...nobody heard of Oden until this year...kind of like Lebron. No potential so he flew under the radar.

Oden's potential pre knee injury is as high as any of the guys you mentioned. He's better with both hands than any of them at the same age, and has great defensive timing. He may not have 35/15 numbers, but he's a 25/12 player when he reaches his prime.


Oden is not as good as Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq and never will be...shrugs...

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