Shawn Marion available?

[bstein14]

There's some info on hoopshype that Miami is open to trading Marion for the right package of players that would better benefit their rebuilding process.

I guess it could be somewhat like Sheed going to Atlanta, and then being traded to Detroit.

Marion would have to be traded by himself, not packaged with anyone else.

It will be interesting to see if a contender puts in for his services!


Any thoughts or ideas of what teams you think might try to make a move for him?

[GJense4181]

Us:
Marion for Tayshaun Prince, Primoz Brezec, Walter Hermann, and Flip Murray.

We could bring back Ronald Dupree and/or Sammy Mejia if we so desired, just to round out the roster. Of course, I'd be all for bringing PJ Brown aboard. We could become:
Billups/Stuckey/Hunter
Hamilton/Afflalo/Mejia*
Marion/Hayes/Dupree*
McDyess/Maxiell/Johnson
Wallace/Brown/Samb*

They would have to cut a few players, but would wind up being:
Williams/Murray/Parker*
Wade/Wright/Cook
Prince/Davis
Haslem/Hermann/Johnson*
Blount/Brezec/Barron/Mourning*

Effectively, Shaquille O'Neal/Chris Quinn/Anthony Joel were traded for Tayshaun Prince/Primoz Brezec/Flip Murray/Walter Hermann. I suppose Marcus Banks would be waived?

[roc]

He would be a nice addition to Golden State but I doubt they would deal Beidrins or Ellis so...

Chicago could use him and may be willing to part with their youth but who else gets added in to even up salaries (no they won't S&T Brown, owner is cheap)?

[bstein14]

We wouldn't even have to include Flip...

Marion for Prince + Brezec + Hermann works.

I'd assume they'd want a 1st rounder from us too.

Why for Miami? Prince makes almost $8 million less than Marion and is younger. They also save money and lux tax $ this season.

Why for Detroit? Marion is a better rebounder, and more athletic.

Why not for Detroit? Prince has chemistry with Billups and RIP... He's never complained about anything, whereas there have been lockerroom issues with Marion in Phoenix.

[Snakebites]

Plenty of teams could use him.

Im sure the Warriors would love to have him. And Chicago. San Antonio would be interested. Hell, just about any team either willing to go small with him as a power forward or lacking in a small forward would want him.

If Im the Heat, though, I dont deal him this year unless I can get some short contracts and rock solid young talent. This deal was made largely for money, and also to get a potential piece of a future puzzle, and they wont flip him off to another team to take on long term salary commitments of any kind. As a result, any deal has to not only keep their financial situation well intact, but has to send a considerable amount of talent their way.

That immediately limits the number of teams that could make a play. How far? I have no idea, but it seems like a tough sell. Certainly not impossible though. Lord knows Id love to have him here.

[roc]

I suppose Marcus Banks would be waived?

He makes a bit too much to waive him that's what their cheap expiring non essential players are for in this scenario. If they only had 2 such players then I would think Davis would be let go before Banks as it would be much cheaper and I don't see them wanting him in the future anyway.

[bstein14]

Well Miami is paying a boatload of tax this year.

Trading him would allow them to save some money this year, plus get assets for the future.

I think they know he'll want a great big extension, and there is a chance he could leave for nothing this offseason.

A trade for Prince, Hermann, and Brezec would save that team $3 million plus $3 million more of lux tax dollars..

If they could get $3 million in the trade that's a ton of money.

They are the worst team in the league so shedding payroll is probably a top priority for this season and next.

[nasty daddy]

Where abouts in hoopshype did you see that Miami is open to trading Marion bstein14?

[nasty daddy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... eat-080208

Q: Are the Heat considering trading Marion before the Feb. 21 deadline?

A: As of now, no. The Heat could move him to a contender and take back expiring contracts in return, which would make them a major player on the free agent market this summer, but the plan for now is to upgrade the point guard position and bring in a mid-level free agent over the summer. The last team to acquire an All-Star caliber player and then re-trade him just a few days later was the Atlanta Hawks, who acquired Rasheed Wallace from Portland in 2004 and traded him to Detroit 10 days later. We've all seen how well that's worked out for the Hawks, haven't we?

[Joe Berry]

I think Marion is a piece of ****...his ego is too big, he earned 17 million on one of the best teams...i think he's one of those guys who's all about the money, and not interessed in winning at all..

[ElectricMayhem]

Marion's a tremendous talent, but he wasn't happy on a team where he had to share the ball so much. It would be the same deal in Detroit, where we have a scoring point guard, a scoring shooting guard, and Rasheed. Marion wants an offense where only one or two people are expected to shoot.

I can't see him being happy in Detroit.

[GJense4181]

^He wasn't happy putting up the best statistics on his team, yet Steve Nash would win the MVPs and Amare Stoudemire would make the All-NBA teams and participate in a dunk contest.
He simply wants his due props.

[jab]

And now he will get them.

Trying to audition for an extension with Wade and a team full of backups he is going to be EXPOSED as 'not' a number 2 option.

When the June draft of Miami's lotto pick occurs Riles will put on his GM hat and decide that Miami just couldn't afford to pay him what he wants

[Roscoe Sheed]

I don't think I'd trade Prince and others for Marion. Marion is a better overall player, but he has shown repeatedly that his attitude is terrible. He might ruin the team's chemistry

[roc]

^and he dissappears in the playoffs

[jab]

^^ Busted for watching the SA- Suns series last year.

Because if Bowen was on Nash, Tony Parker was on Marion quite a bit and I wonder why he didn't put up 'stats' on him

[m23uza1hem36]

I'd love to seem him in a Detroit uniform more so then Tayshaun, I don't see this trade happening unless we are forced to because either Boston or Cleveland makes a move. He's a stronger, better rebounder, then Tayshaun. He's also great at blocking shots which adds to our interior defense. I'd like him on a Lebron or Paul Peirce more then Tayshaun because he has alot of strength. I hope we can get him, that's what would really put us at the top.

[srt4b]

^and he dissappears in the playoffs

Hey if disappearing is 17/12 & 50% fg%. I think we could deal with a bad attitude.

[jab]

I'd love to seem him in a Detroit uniform more so then Tayshaun, I don't see this trade happening unless we are forced to because either Boston or Cleveland makes a move. He's a stronger, better rebounder, then Tayshaun. He's also great at blocking shots which adds to our interior defense. I'd like him on a Lebron or Paul Peirce more then Tayshaun because he has alot of strength. I hope we can get him, that's what would really put us at the top.

I am sure he is available in many fantasy leagues. I am glad Joe D doesn't run Detroit Basketball like he is a participant in one.

[roc]

Marion may have had decent stats but he just wasn't able to bring his A game when needed.

IIRC Lamar 'I can only go left' Odom owned him in the Playoffs last year.