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Post#41 » by miller31time » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:16 pm

nate33 wrote:Pecherov is rushing his shot. It's a byproduct of playing on an offense with so few other scorers. He looks like crap now because teams are sticking close to him. He'll probably look much better once Arenas and Butler are healthy and drawing the defensive attention.


They are? I mean, it's not like they left him wide open 5 times last night, but they weren't exactly playing him tight either.

His shots, with the exception of that one post up which was just awful, were rhythm shots and he got them off no problem.

Like everything else on this board, his shot isn't nearly as bad as advertised last night, but at the other end of the spectrum, he isn't nearly as good of a shooter as we all think he is and want him to be.

He will improve, though. He's young, and there's no doubt that he has 3pt shooting ability, along with a soft touch in the post (with his turnaround fadeaway). He rebounds fairly well and his post defense doesn't look that bad.

In time, maybe he can become a serviceable role player, but to expect anything more is pushing it, IMHO.
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Post#42 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:19 pm

Hes a rookie, coming of an injury and has never seen such athletes in his EuroLeages.

Give him time.
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Post#43 » by omegatronic3 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:25 pm

from what I saw last nigh he sucks!!! Cant guard his shadow cant post up and cant hit a shot to save his life.

If he finds his stroke he could become useful...his upside is probably Memet Okur...but in reality i dont think hell be that good
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Post#44 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:28 pm

I'm evaluating Pecherov the same way I did Blatche. Before Andray got shot, I recall liking the way he played. He had a flair and a good court sense from the very start. Then, he had his setback and when he came back Andray stayed in a funk for a long time.

Just like with Andray, I like things Pecherov has given glimpses of early in his career.

As for Pecherov, I've already seen him steal a ball, crossover dribble, take the ball the length of the court and dish for an assist. He's led a fast break. Etan, Brendan, and Darius couldn't do that. Andray can't do it as well or without charging. Pecherov is a big man who has a good handle. That's one observation.

I've seen Pecherov score points in bunches. IIRC, he's had a 9-point quarter.

I've seen Pecherov TRY to defend several times and occasionally, he's succesfully pressured a ball handler.

Most of all, I've seen Pecherov be tall. The guy's a 7ft perimeter player. He can't shoot like Horry, but he's tall like Horry. Jamison wouldn't give the guy any kind of saying like "I get buckets, son" if Pecherov couldn't shoot lights out in practice.

So, miller, I value Pecherov as a player with potential. He's just 22 and he's still gangly and weak by NBA standards. The guy already made me think he might turn out to be as good a pick as Millsap, before Oleksiy's last spell of bad games.

At this point time will tell, but I'll be surprised if he doesn't at least have a Kapono-type game off the bench.
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Post#45 » by doclinkin » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:50 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:He can't shoot like Horry, but he's tall like Horry.


Horry couldn't shoot like Horry as a rookie. He shot like 28% from three. And there's a few years in his career when his % dropped below 30%, about half the years of his career he's shooting less than 33% from outside.

Pesh is just eager and excitable. He's taking shots out of the framework of the offense, but he hasn't been on-court with Daniels much so there's no one to walk him through the sets and counters. Instead he's thrown out there with the other young'ns and been jacking shots since he doesn't know what else to do.

There's a reason why he doesn't see much PT when everyone's healthy: he's a rook. Has no real idea what he's doing out there. And we have solid players in front of him in the line-up. Jamison's 40 minutes for one.

He'll be fine. Dray had to let things slow down, too. Remember: '3 years to learn the offense'. If the team wins, when all are healthy, he'll have a chance to develop slowly. In the meantime he's just getting his feet wet in live-fire action. Yeah he's gonna look a bit goofy, take the worn shot when the team is out of position, but he'll get it bit by bit. He's jsut happy to be out there right now, has no real idea where he fits in & when to do what he does. For now while we have no expectations of winning a streak, I'm happy with him getting the shots up and finding his range and rhythm.

The real key is: we've got a team of behind-the-scenes people who can help him develop his game, now and in the offseason. Come on, he's a would-be shooter and we got OCD shooting coach Hopla to help school the gym-rat Ukrainian. He'll be fine. It's not like he won't put in the work.
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Post#46 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:38 pm

no D in Hibachi wrote:I went to the game last night and showed up an hour early so that I could watch shoot around. All I have to say is that I am horribly unimpressed with Pecherovs shot. There is no fluidity at all. He looks like a catapult, with no rotation, when he chucks the ball up there and everyone of his shots were bad misses. His misses are so ugly it reminds me of when I was in high school gym playing basketball with the kid who played trumpet in the marching band.

Thing is there is nothing in his attempt that resembles an unlucky bounce. You know, the in and out type misses. Plain and simpe his attempts are pure garbage. They are so bad I wonder if Ruffin is a better shooter than he is. And worse his shot selection rivals Jamison in terms of momentum killing, long rebounds to start fast break dunk. I am sorry that I have bashed on Songaila so much, he still sucks, but not nearly as bad a Pecherov and I'd happily give all Pecherov's minutes to Songaila so that Pecherov never enters the game.


Nice eval of a guy known for his shooting. I saw him warm up also. I disagree with your eval. OP just needs to make the transition from practice shots to live bullets. He will be fine.
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Post#47 » by Kanyewest » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:58 am

Opec coming off an injury, he's a rookie adjusting to the NBA, and the sample size is small. What's important is that he's a hard worker and good become a useful role player down the road. People are going to have lay off the Dirk comparisons for a while though.
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Post#48 » by picknrollaction » Sat Mar 1, 2008 7:32 am

Stewie got dunked on hard by Nocioni
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Post#49 » by BruceO » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:52 am

I had the same conversation about Roger mason with a guy on the wiz website. HE said Mason wasnt even worth what he signed for. From conversations I had with someone who knew Mason from college, he said roger was one of the best shooters he knew. But his defense was suspect. Also there was word of roger being a very good practice shooter. he just hadnt had game time to get a rhythm then. But now dude is taking his words back.
My take on Pech right now is he's a good practice player and because of his work ethic he will figure it out. Hopla can improve his shot and once he gets rhythm and game time he will be okay
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Post#50 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Sat Mar 1, 2008 3:58 pm

But here's the really funny part about covering this team: while we were interviewing Coach Eddie Jordan just outside of the Wiz lockeroom after the game, we could hear these louds shouting and cheering coming from the Wiz locker room. "Wow," I thought. "These guys are really fired up. What an inspiring win." Not exactly.

When we walked in, most of the players were crowded around a television repeatedly watching a replay of the dunk Andres Nocioni threw down over Wiz rookie Oleksiy Pecherov in the third quarter. You guys may not have seen this because it was on a local broadcast, but not long after the dunk, the TV crew here threw up a freeze-frame shot of the dunk with the face of Stewie from Family Guy super-imposed over Pecherov's head. Hillarious. When it came on, the entire locker room lost it.

Pesh took it all stride. "I don't mind zo much. It happens you know? Darius Songaila was getting dressed next to Pesh and just shook his head and offered some veteran advice. "You are my brother but man, you have to foul him in that situation. You can't let that happen."
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Post#51 » by fugop » Sat Mar 1, 2008 4:30 pm

Pecherov responded back: "Darius, you think that about every situation."
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Post#52 » by miller31time » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:05 pm

fugop wrote:Pecherov responded back: "Darius, you think that about every situation."


:rofl:
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Post#53 » by Ruzious » Sat Mar 1, 2008 6:14 pm

fugop wrote:Pecherov responded back: "Darius, you think that about every situation."

Oh man. Gotta clean the computer screen again.
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Post#54 » by BruceO » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:17 pm

I'll take funny for 500 points.


Q.What is funny and has been previously mentioned in this post


A. What is my new sig?

You are correct!
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Post#55 » by VAWiZKID » Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:43 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbxzfVl_7c4


hahahah @ tha bulls announcing team
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Post#56 » by dobrojim » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:06 pm

miller31time wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



:rofl:


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Post#57 » by joeisabigdork » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:18 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
You guys may not have seen this because it was on a local broadcast, but not long after the dunk, the TV crew here threw up a freeze-frame shot of the dunk with the face of Stewie from Family Guy super-imposed over Pecherov's head. Hillarious. When it came on, the entire locker room lost it.



Yea I saw when the BUlls announcers put that up, I was rollin :rofl:

I really think Pech will come to form eventually. Just like the rest of the rookies, he'll find his groove eventually. Gotta give the rookies time and not get angry at em for every mistake they make. It's not like he's PJR, or something.

Kid will be decent with more experience =D
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Post#58 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:28 pm

VAWiZKID wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbxzfVl_7c4


hahahah @ tha bulls announcing team
Those guys did lose it and they were really funny.

The good news is they like Pecherov's game. Gave him a lot of words of praise early on, before Nocioni hammered down on him.
Bye bye Beal.
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Post#59 » by dobrojim » Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:46 pm

joeisabigdork wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yea I saw when the BUlls announcers put that up, I was rollin :rofl:

I really think Pech will come to form eventually. Just like the rest of the rookies, he'll find his groove eventually. Gotta give the rookies time and not get angry at em for every mistake they make. It's not like he's PJR, or something.

Kid will be decent with more experience =D


Exactly

He's 22 years old with a little more than a month of NBA experience.
He could end up being quite good. Or possibly just serviceable.
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Post#60 » by closg00 » Sun Mar 9, 2008 1:01 pm

Pech was 0-3 vs the Bobcats. Pech can hit well during practice, but nada come game-time pretty-much. We desperately need Pech to be our Matt Carol.

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