Wiretap:Popovich rips Gasol Trade

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Post#81 » by G35 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:07 pm

What's telling is that the other GM's/coaches/players/fans are complaining so much.

Be honest the trade works under league rules and it's just jealousy that "your" team didn't do the trade. It makes the other WC playoff teams pissed because now the Lakers are even more of a threat.

However what people don't WANT to understand is that this isn't a trade to make Memphis a better team on the court right now. It sounds like the owner wants to get rid of assets to make the team easier to sell. The Grizzlies weren't winning anyway. They are 3rd worst team in the NBA with Gasol.

A lot of this "hate" is from other WC playoff teams, Kobe haters that realize he has a real chance to win a championship now and in the future and general principle Laker haters.........
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Post#82 » by risktaker91 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:10 pm

Cevap wrote:spurs would be the biggest crybabies if it weren't for the suns
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Post#83 » by snaquille oatmeal » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:22 pm

Harry Heinous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Purely hypothetical, but if you were in charge of the Grizzlies, would you have done that exact trade? I didn't think so.

Really no point in arguing this. I think the Grizzlies settled and aimed way lower than they had to, you probably disagree, but whatever. Wallace challenged someone to speak out against his deal, and Popp and I just did :)
I know I am kind of late into this discussion, but I have been hearing interviews of Mitch K on the local radio in LA and he has been saying that the trade talks started the day after Bynum got hurt, but they were not going anywhere because the Lakers initial offer was Odom and Memphis was not interested in carrying the 14 mill through 2009. Mitch said that on the night before the trade anouncement the Grizz called him and asked for Kwame instead of Odom because Kwames 9 mill+ contract expired at the end of this year. the Lakers jumped on the deal. Jeannie Buss (the Lakers owner's daughter and Lakers marketing manager and Phils Jacksons girlfriend) also said the same thing on the radio when she was asked when she found out about the Gasol deal.
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Post#84 » by TheCardinal20 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:22 pm

Trades like this ruin the competitive balance of the league. Here you go LA, enjoy! This trade smells bad, good for NBA's bottom line, of course...but rotten nonetheless...

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Post#85 » by Jajwanda » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:46 pm

Ummm here's the deal....

There's going to obviously be atleast four to five Gasol or close to Gasol quality players available this year that money can be throw at.

Say Igoudala for example... Philly doesn't want to pay him that much cash, but maybe Memphis might.

Memphis gives the cash and the trade basically ends up

as Igoudala, 2 first round picks, Gasol, and Crittenton for Pau Gasol.

Sound better?
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Post#86 » by ajax » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:49 pm

Can't see how picking up a late pick form '07 and some almost undoubtedly late picks from '08 and '10 and having a team with neaz zero talent makes it attractive. If the Grizz had packaged Gasol for some high picks, even exchanged him for picks and a slightly unfavorable contract, that would have given a potential owner something to sell tickets with for the couple of years the were rebuilding, some hope for the fans. Now the guy buying it would have to pray he got a number one pick when an impact player came out or suck and lose money for years.
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Post#87 » by Birth of the Cool » Sat Feb 9, 2008 7:54 pm

Cevap wrote:spurs would be the biggest crybabies if it weren't for the suns


on the court I think it's a close race between Spurs / Pistons...Sun's that bad ? I guess I don't notice because I have my Nashfan glasses on...
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Post#88 » by SA37 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 8:58 pm

Phil_2.0 wrote:Clearly, MEM was looking to clear cap , get a young piece and get pics. To make it more attractive for sale? Maybe. But that is nobody's business and people shouldnt have to apologize for it.


If Memphis' goal was to clear cap space, they could have accomplished this in a much better way.

For example:

Memphis gets: Jason Williams and Daequan Cook
Miami gets: Mike Miller

Memphis gets: Marvin Williams, Lorenzen Wright, Tyronn Lue, and Atlanta
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Post#89 » by tnayrbrocks » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:13 pm

What makes you think Atlanta would've done that deal? Marvin seems like he's on the verge of breaking out
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Post#90 » by dockingsched » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:18 pm

SA37 wrote:
Phil_2.0 wrote:Clearly, MEM was looking to clear cap , get a young piece and get pics. To make it more attractive for sale? Maybe. But that is nobody's business and people shouldnt have to apologize for it.


If Memphis' goal was to clear cap space, they could have accomplished this in a much better way.

For example:

Memphis gets: Jason Williams and Daequan Cook
Miami gets: Mike Miller

Memphis gets: Marvin Williams, Lorenzen Wright, Tyronn Lue, and Atlanta
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Post#91 » by sipclip » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:19 pm

Atlanta doesn't have a 2008 pick so the earliest pick they could trade is 2010. Also Marvin Williams is not a pf and will be up for a huge extension after next season so it's not a good cap deal for them.

I find it funny that people bytch about this deal but they don't say a peep when Baron was traded for nothing to a mediocre team. People only cry when these trades happen for good teams.
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Post#92 » by NapoleonII » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:24 pm

etopn23 wrote:It's a telling story when only the Lakers fans are defending this trade...

You can delude yourselves and say that there wasn't anything suspect about this trade... but it's blatantly obvious to anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in the Lakers.
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Post#93 » by HarlemHeat37 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:28 pm

it doesn't bother me..they made a trade, got lucky, and now they are a contender..you just have to live with it..Pop was obviously joking about the committee and all of that LOL..

I try to look at it in a positive way..if Kobe can't lead this team to a championship in the next few years, than his legacy suffers..
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Post#94 » by BooRadley » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:41 pm

Spurs tanked a season to get Tim Duncan, Pop needs to shut up.
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Post#95 » by Iggyemu » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:41 pm

The dude did ask execs to criticize the deal publicly. Pop was joking about the committee...he is funny like that.

And there were better deals out there if Memphis' soul goal was to clear cap space. The Lakers made an offer and the it wasn't as good as some others probably but it wasn't far off and West probably just told that noob to pull the trigger b/c its the Lakers. Whats done is done...the Lakers got lucky. Good to be lucky a lot of the times.
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Post#96 » by High 5 » Sat Feb 9, 2008 10:09 pm

Pop is right. Every other team feels the same way I'm sure. That trade was a joke.
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Post#97 » by Harry Heinous » Sat Feb 9, 2008 10:41 pm

Nobody is bitching, just laughing at Memphis. Great, they want to sell the team...still doesn't mean they didn't get pillaged by the Lakers. High 1st round picks are complete crap shoots, and Critt is a completely unproven rookie. Memphis got what they wanted, that's wonderful I hope they did, still doesn't mean people can't criticize what they wanted or their motives. If the owner is trying to sell the team and just cutting assets, that sucks for the fans and anyone interested in trying to make the Grizz the best team they can be.

It's no different than the Suns getting Gasol while keeping Stat, Marion, Nash, Bell, Barbosa, etc. Or if the Spurs got Gasol while keeping Duncan, Manu, Parker, Bowen, Oberto, etc.

Lakers fans would make fun and criticize Memphis too, let's be realistic. Count your blessings, and stop the pointless pursuit of convincing everyone else how the Grizz didn't get hosed and got a great deal.
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Post#98 » by dvdrdiscs » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:39 am

I keep hearing people say "there are better deals out there than the Lakers one" but I've yet to see one example.

So how about it? Please enlighten me on a better deal out there starting with a large expiring contract. Don't package 2-3 small expiring small contracts together and call it equivalent though. Thanks.
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Post#99 » by G35 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:50 am

Harry Heinous wrote:Nobody is bitching, just laughing at Memphis. Great, they want to sell the team...still doesn't mean they didn't get pillaged by the Lakers. High 1st round picks are complete crap shoots, and Critt is a completely unproven rookie. Memphis got what they wanted, that's wonderful I hope they did, still doesn't mean people can't criticize what they wanted or their motives. If the owner is trying to sell the team and just cutting assets, that sucks for the fans and anyone interested in trying to make the Grizz the best team they can be.

It's no different than the Suns getting Gasol while keeping Stat, Marion, Nash, Bell, Barbosa, etc. Or if the Spurs got Gasol while keeping Duncan, Manu, Parker, Bowen, Oberto, etc.

Lakers fans would make fun and criticize Memphis too, let's be realistic. Count your blessings, and stop the pointless pursuit of convincing everyone else how the Grizz didn't get hosed and got a great deal.



Wrong, the fans/GM's/coaches/players of the other 28 teams are bitching.

And I don't think any Laker fan is saying that it wasn't a great deal. Most sane people are just explaining why Memphis made the deal. This has nothing to do with Laker fans. Why don't the people bitching admit that they are just pissed the GM of their teams couldn't make the deal.......
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Post#100 » by ajax » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:51 am

dvdrdiscs wrote:I keep hearing people say "there are better deals out there than the Lakers one" but I've yet to see one example.

So how about it? Please enlighten me on a better deal out there starting with a large expiring contract. Don't package 2-3 small expiring small contracts together and call it equivalent though. Thanks.

Exactly what difference does it make if it's two or three expiring contracts instead of one? What is important is what they got to build on in the future, not the crap they want to get rid of during or at the end of the year.

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