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Post#21 » by MikeyMike » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:07 pm

It'll be a good series, but i think Lakers will win in 7.
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Post#22 » by fuhgidabowdit » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:15 pm

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You know, I'm all for having confidence in a team, but this kind of boasting is bordering on obnoxious...stick our board for stuff like this, yeah?


why are you kissin booty on the lakers board for? i said what i had to say, and i believe in what i said 100 percent, my point was gasol cannot guard amare, and we are better equipt to beat the spurs and lakers with oneal instead of marion, whats so obnoxious about that?
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Post#23 » by magic1fan » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:21 pm

to be honest i don't think it's even close. shaq will give the suns a morale boost,but hardly anything else. i mean if you are putting up career low stats on a bad team,what does that say about you? shaq has never been a dominant rebounder,so all this talk about him gobbling up rebounds and starting the fast break is absurd. i even hear some people saying how he can be to the suns what kareem was to us(not gonna happen). kareem was in great shape,shaq not even close.

plus our front line is just too big. everywhere shaq looks in the paint there will be a seven footer. he will try to bulldoze his way through and be called for charges. i am sorry,and i don't mean to sound like a homer,but even with the trade i still don't see how the suns can match up with us. the lakers will have too many weapons with sasha,vlad,and fisher's outside shooting. when we get healthy we will have three guys that command doubles(kobe,bynum,gasol) plus we can switch kobe and trevor on nash to slow him down like we did to a.i. earlier this season.

i think it will be a good series,but i can't see it going past five games. 4-1 lakers
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Post#24 » by YiYaoYue » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:38 pm

I loved marion, but the thing about shaq that I dislike is that he only puts effort when he feels like it... he isn't going to try during the season and when he does in the playoffs.. he might be out of sync with everyone else demanding the ball to try and dominate the games.
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Post#25 » by Kobay » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:46 pm

believe me shaq is not and never have been our concern. Only player that kilt us has always been barbosa.
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Post#26 » by rsavaj » Sat Feb 9, 2008 9:55 pm

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why are you kissin booty on the lakers board for? i said what i had to say, and i believe in what i said 100 percent, my point was gasol cannot guard amare, and we are better equipt to beat the spurs and lakers with oneal instead of marion, whats so obnoxious about that?


Not trying to 'kiss booty' as you so eloquently put it, but seeing as how we get ticked every time a Lakers fan comes over to the PHX board talking about how they're going to own us, I just thought that it's obvious that it goes both ways.
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Post#27 » by YiYaoYue » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:01 pm

Kobay wrote:believe me shaq is not and never have been our concern. Only player that kilt us has always been barbosa.


A big reason was that our inside was soft so it was easy to get inside... bynum has stopped that a lot... now its Bynum + Gasol... really hard to get inside with that
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Post#28 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:13 pm

Sofa King wrote:We beat the crap out of the Suns in the first two games with a healthy squad that didn't include Gasol. I know this will be the year the Lakers can get over the hump.


regular season wins mean very little

In the first game, the Suns were on a really rough back-to-back- they didn't get back to Phoenix until hours before the game. Keep that in mind.
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Post#29 » by -SDU- » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:51 pm

kobe>mj wrote:SHAQ<BYNUM - even if shaq still claims he has gas in the tank he canont match up with a healthy bynum.
AMARE=GASOL - it will be intresting to see this match up, unlike previos years amare is going to have to worry about a serious offensive threat.
DIAW<ODOM - depending on which odom shows up, i think odom has the slight edge over diaw.
BELL<KOBE - enough said : )
NASH>FISHER - I think where good enough offensivly for kobe to use most of his energy to shut down nash.

and with our upgrade of smush to Fisher. were pretty damm good, and not to mention OUR BENCH>>>>>>THIER BENCH

Im a 7 game series i predict Lakers 4-2 :clap:


man, firstly grant hill starts, not diaw

secondly to say amare = gasol is ludicrous, amare is an ALL NBA 1st team player, an allstar, you cant possibly say he is = to gasol

whats the bench matchup, we will play diaw, barbosa, skinner and possibly DJ off the bench, you play turiar, walton sasha and vlad

i think the bench is pretty equal, you have more depth, but we all know how barbs loves the lakers and i do think this trade will bring the best out of diaw

if youre going to evaluate the matchup, then do it without your purple and gold glasses on

i cant predict a winner at this point, all i know is it will be entertaining as all hell and ill feel robbed as a fan of the NBA if these 2 teams dont meet in the playoffs
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Post#30 » by blix » Sat Feb 9, 2008 11:56 pm

-SDU- wrote:if youre going to evaluate the matchup, then do it without your purple and gold glasses on


From you man, this is a classic line.
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Post#31 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:05 am

Besides the obvious health and ability of Shaq (or lack thereof), the real key to the trade is how well Grant Hill plays (and if he can remain healthy) and if Diaw steps up like he did a few seasons back
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Post#32 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:43 am

blix wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
From you man, this is a classic line.


Damn, you beat me to it. If there's a bigger, most obnoxious homer in the entire realm of realgm, I'd like to meet him.
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Post#33 » by Erik Eleven » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:32 am

With both teams healthy, the starters might possibly draw pretty even over seven games, but it'll be very hard for their bench to beat ours. The Lakers are a much deeper team than The Suns. The Suns are one injury away from being extremely thin/lame, we are not. When healthy, we actually have quality backups at every position
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Post#34 » by milesfides » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:00 am

I don't know, Barbosa is like Laker kryptonite.

I'm not sure if Farmar can be as devastating as Barbosa. When Barbie gets it going, he's in his Barbie world.

Unfortunately, unlike Team USA, I don't think we can afford to use Kobe as a defensive specialist.

Contrary to what some people think, I believe it would be a close battle, one that just might be decided by unlikely heroes.
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Post#35 » by bynumsbreakout » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:28 am

-SDU- wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


whats the bench matchup, we will play diaw, barbosa, skinner and possibly DJ off the bench, you play turiar, walton sasha and vlad



Speaking of homer...somehow when discussing the "equal" benches you leave out arguably our two best bench players in Farmar and Ariza. Coincidence? I think not. Take off those glasses buddy!
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Post#36 » by bynumsbreakout » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:37 am

-SDU- wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



secondly to say amare = gasol is ludicrous, amare is an ALL NBA 1st team player, an allstar, you cant possibly say he is = to gasol


ALL NBA 1st team, an allstar, ALL NBA 1st team turnstile defense. Dude can't guard his own shadow. Any big man with any resemblance of a post game posts career highs against him. Gasol with weapons around him will put up numbers.
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Post#37 » by Sofa King » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:32 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:regular season wins mean very little

In the first game, the Suns were on a really rough back-to-back- they didn't get back to Phoenix until hours before the game. Keep that in mind.


Well that's a good excuse. What's your excuse for the 2nd game? :lol:

They may mean very little to you but they still play the game for a reason. If the Suns tie the season series from here on out, then it's going to be an even match up in the playoffs unlike the previous two years where the Suns were heavy favorites to win.
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Post#38 » by Sofa King » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:45 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:Besides the obvious health and ability of Shaq (or lack thereof), the real key to the trade is how well Grant Hill plays (and if he can remain healthy) and if Diaw steps up like he did a few seasons back


Hill and Diaw need to fill in void created by the trade of Marion. Hill should be able to shoot and score and Diaw can concentrate on the rebounds. Can't really compensate on Marion's defense though.

milesfides wrote:I don't know, Barbosa is like Laker kryptonite.

I'm not sure if Farmar can be as devastating as Barbosa. When Barbie gets it going, he's in his Barbie world.

Unfortunately, unlike Team USA, I don't think we can afford to use Kobe as a defensive specialist.

Contrary to what some people think, I believe it would be a close battle, one that just might be decided by unlikely heroes.


You know, I agree, Barbosa has always played well against the Lakers and we really have no answer for him on one player to match his speed. Farmar is far from a defensive specialist when it comes to quicker point guards. Fisher definitely isn't one from what I remember even back when he was first a Laker. We had Tyrone Lue guard Iverson back in the day.
Too bad we don't have Crittenton anymore; I really thought he could be groomed to be that player to match speed for speed.

This is where Bynum and Gasol come into play. We just have to have Fisher or Farmar protect Barbosa's shot. When Barbosa burns them to the paint, Bynum or Gasol or even Ronny have to protect the paint and block Barbosa's lay ups. Even Kobe can do that too since he's the type of player that can run back and block his shot; (eg. Kobe's block on Kidd when Kidd stole the ball and thought he had an easy lay up.)

Team defense baby! And that's what the Lakers have been doing all season.
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Post#39 » by blix » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:10 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:Damn, you beat me to it. If there isn't a bigger, most obnoxious homer in the entire realm of realgm, I'd like to meet him.


I got lucky, spent a lot of time on the computer yesterday.
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Post#40 » by Sofa King » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:34 pm

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I got lucky, spent a lot of time on the computer yesterday.


Man, I wish I got some from going online. ;)

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