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How abut Marion or RJefferson?

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How abut Marion or RJefferson? 

Post#1 » by SnakefromHell » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:11 pm

There are some who say the Heat could trade Marion again before the deadline.

Instead of Artest, why not Marion?
- Nene
- Kleiza
- Najera

Unlike Artest, Marion has actually been slotted at PF and is pulling down rebounds like crazy. Plus, although he has ego, we won't have to worry about him blowing up psycho style. He can play defense, probably more versatile than Artest and can hit threes too.

Lineup:
C - Camby
PF - Martin
SF - Marion
SG - Anthony
PG - Iverson

At some point, Marion can also backup Martin or play some SG as well. Kleiza is good, but face it, he's no Marion. And I doubt he'd ever average 20 pts in his career. He's more like a sixth man, Bobby Jackson type of player.


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Or, instead of the expensive Kidd, why not get Jefferson?
- Najera
- Atkins
- Kleiza

He'd be our SG with defense. Could be a perfect fit imo... KMart would love to see his boy again.
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Post#2 » by M.Balla » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:22 pm

IMO, Jefferson ain't versatile enough to play SG or PF alongside Melo, and he won't upgrade or perimeter defense or three point shooting.

Marion doesn't want to be a 3rd option, shoots 34% from the 3 at the same clip than Artest and I believe he brings worse perimeter defense than Ron, plus he would be more expensive.

I like the Artest option because, due to his craziness maybe we can have him on the cheap, and he's the BEST perimeter defender, our biggest problem, because we are "4 treys from a role player every damn match" away to be a contender.
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Post#3 » by big123 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:23 pm

As much as I'd love either on the Nuggs, I think the trade for Marion is too much to give up and I can't see NJ giving up Jefferson, especially before Kidd or Carter.
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Post#4 » by pickaxe » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:47 pm

M.Balla wrote:IMO, Jefferson ain't versatile enough to play SG or PF alongside Melo, and he won't upgrade or perimeter defense or three point shooting.

Marion doesn't want to be a 3rd option, shoots 34% from the 3 at the same clip than Artest and I believe he brings worse perimeter defense than Ron, plus he would be more expensive.

I like the Artest option because, due to his craziness maybe we can have him on the cheap, and he's the BEST perimeter defender, our biggest problem, because we are "4 treys from a role player every damn match" away to be a contender.


Exactly. We need to be giving up 3-4 less threes or long range, and maybe making one or two more per game.

Or, another way to look at it is.....if we can't defend the three, we need to be able to knock them down. Artest is a great trade off because he hits 3s at the same rate any of the other guys on this team can, but he defends so much better.
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Post#5 » by M.Balla » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:47 pm

21 Dec LAC
Ross 3 treys CAREER HIGH

Jan 5 LAL
Radmanovic 6 treys SEASON HIGH

Jan 7 PHO
Banks 7 treys CAREER HIGH
Marion 5 treys SEASON HIGH (tied)
12 treys=36 effin' points!!! And we're going to Miami this tuesday!

Jan 14 CHA
Wallace 4 treys SEASON HIGH (tied)

Jan 21 LAL
Fisher 6 treys SEASON HIGH
Farmar 3 treys SEASON HIGH (tied)

Some season/career highs from downtown against Denver, and I haven
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Post#6 » by EMB6903 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:05 pm

no thanks on both of them, theres no reason we need any of these players, Marion is an over-rated defender and we dont need Jefferson at all seeing we have an allstar SF and a solid one off the bench.



why not a big who can actually play with his back to the basket?
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Post#7 » by UNLVNugsFan » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:30 pm

Marion wants too much money, and RJ is not a good fit at all.

So I would say no thanks. Though, given the fact that Artest wants 14-15 million a year on his next contract, so he would be about 90% gauranteed to opt out, I would rather have RJ then Artest. But I don't want any of the 3.
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Post#8 » by pickaxe » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:54 am

UNLVNugsFan wrote:Marion wants too much money, and RJ is not a good fit at all.

So I would say no thanks. Though, given the fact that Artest wants 14-15 million a year on his next contract, so he would be about 90% gauranteed to opt out, I would rather have RJ then Artest. But I don't want any of the 3.


Would you be more for going for a perimeter defender with offense, or just a role player that can play point and knock down the three? (Assuming we're talking about keeping most of the current Nuggets roster intact)
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Post#9 » by UNLVNugsFan » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:02 am

meloivynene wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Would you be more for going for a perimeter defender with offense, or just a role player that can play point and knock down the three? (Assuming we're talking about keeping most of the current Nuggets roster intact)


I would love to have either, but I would prefer the Artest-type player, preferably one who is not actually Artest. Considering that is impossible, I would love a role playing big PG who could knock down a 3, which is why I would love bringing in Delonte West and having him split time with Carter (and I guess, eventually Atkins...).
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Post#10 » by pickaxe » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:06 pm

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I would love to have either, but I would prefer the Artest-type player, preferably one who is not actually Artest. Considering that is impossible, I would love a role playing big PG who could knock down a 3, which is why I would love bringing in Delonte West and having him split time with Carter (and I guess, eventually Atkins...).


I kind of agree with that - the Nuggets just don't need a head case tearing apart any chemistry they have been building. If the man can keep his head and be part of the team, I wouldn't protest. Plus, the Nuggets have the 'BIG' names on the team already. It's that role player like a Rondo that the Nuggets need (of course, a 6'4 Rondo).

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