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Post#101 » by miamiballer » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:54 pm

what about haslem, blount, parker for dooling, garrity, arroyo and cook
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Post#102 » by magicfan4life05 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:59 pm

NO SMUSH IS THE ULTIMATE DEAL KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#103 » by miamiballer » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:59 pm

well give you money to buy him out
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Post#104 » by magicfan4life05 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:02 pm

oh ok sounds good

but i do remember parker saying he doesnt want to be bought out, and arroyo and dooling wont work because we'll only be left with nelson
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Post#105 » by miamiballer » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:02 pm

if its that big a deal then how about just haslem and blount for arroyo, garrity, and cook
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Post#106 » by cedric76 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:11 pm

why do uguys all want to make big changes?

the guy we need is battie
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Post#107 » by Dwightmare » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:53 pm

miamiballer wrote:if its that big a deal then how about just haslem and blount for arroyo, garrity, and cook


I would do that deal.
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Post#108 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:00 pm

lovehoops01 wrote:Matty Boi clearly has absolutely zero understanding of the salary cap and the rules required regarding adding players. He just thinks you can add whoever you want regardless of how much they make. And that young guys making $8 million a year all of a sudden will agree to change teams and get paid $3 million a year less.


He has pretty much no understanding of anything it seems. HCertainly not the idea of building a contender slowly.
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Post#109 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:03 pm

miamiballer wrote:you guys can have haslem but youll have to take on mark blount to do so...blount is a really good center and can be a great backup for a champinship contending team

haslem, blount for arroyo, dooling, garrity...your team will def improve leaps and bounds

Unfortunately, Haslem for exprings and a draft pick doesnt do anything for us since it doesnt give us enough cap to sign another impact player...wed rather keep haslem if you guys dont take blount as well


Did you just call Blount a really good center? Are you a used car salesman?
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Post#110 » by Flash is the Future » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:16 pm

In 14 games as a starter this season, Mark Blount is averaging 15.1ppg on 58.1% shooting. Sure, he doesn't play defense, but you've got Dwight to do that. Blount can space the floor. We'd keep him if we weren't rebuilding and in need of capspace.
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Post#111 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:19 pm

lovehoops01 wrote:Matty Boi clearly has absolutely zero understanding of the salary cap and the rules required regarding adding players. He just thinks you can add whoever you want regardless of how much they make. And that young guys making $8 million a year all of a sudden will agree to change teams and get paid $3 million a year less.


Dude whats your issue? What was it in what i said that would cause you to believe that i have zero understanding of the salary cap and rules??

Are we not going after a PF?

Can we not sign someone to the MLE?

Can we not sign someone like Thomas to the minimum?

Can we not sign Jason Kidd when he is a free agent?

Exactly your claim means nothing, so SFU.

You love getting on here and criticizing people for no good reason and obviously in your own little world you think your right about everything. You and Cammo are the exact same.

Do us all a favor and get your head out of your a$$.
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Post#112 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:48 pm

Flash is the Future wrote:In 14 games as a starter this season, Mark Blount is averaging 15.1ppg on 58.1% shooting. Sure, he doesn't play defense, but you've got Dwight to do that. Blount can space the floor. We'd keep him if we weren't rebuilding and in need of capspace.


I could average 15 point per game on a terrible team like Miami, beside, scoring is the one thing we do not need. And that is all Blount does.
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Post#113 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:51 pm

[quote="mattyBoi"][/quote]

Try answering these questions in your head before asking them. No, we can't sign Kurt Thomas to the minimum because he is far too good and in demand to play for it. He much more likely would command all or part of an MLE. No, we can't sign Kidd when he is a free agent because we are over the cap (way over the cap in your magical make believe plan). Teams over the cap can not sign free agents, especially big money ones like Kidd.
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Post#114 » by Flash is the Future » Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:58 pm

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I could average 15 point per game on a terrible team like Miami, beside, scoring is the one thing we do not need. And that is all Blount does.

On 58% shooting from the field? :nonono:

You guys need defense, which is what Haslem brings. Blount is the price, but it's not like he's complete deadweight, which was the point. You guys need shooters around Dwight. That's what UD is, and that's what Blount is. Blount's basically a better version of Brian Cook. Blount would be the backup C. He's a good fit. If you're saying that Blount isn't needed, then why trade Ariza for Brian Cook+Evans?
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Post#115 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:34 pm

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On 58% shooting from the field? :nonono:

You guys need defense, which is what Haslem brings. Blount is the price, but it's not like he's complete deadweight, which was the point. You guys need shooters around Dwight. That's what UD is, and that's what Blount is. Blount's basically a better version of Brian Cook. Blount would be the backup C. He's a good fit. If you're saying that Blount isn't needed, then why trade Ariza for Brian Cook+Evans?


Expiring contracts are the price, Blount is Miami trying to screw Orlando into overpaying. Haslem is not so good that we should have to give up expirings and take back an ugly contract. Expirings plus a first or Redick is doable, but taking back Blount is a dealbreaker.
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Post#116 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:46 pm

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Try answering these questions in your head before asking them. No, we can't sign Kurt Thomas to the minimum because he is far too good and in demand to play for it. He much more likely would command all or part of an MLE. No, we can't sign Kidd when he is a free agent because we are over the cap (way over the cap in your magical make believe plan). Teams over the cap can not sign free agents, especially big money ones like Kidd.


Ok you ALWAYS stray away from the point.

He said i didnt understand the cap and its rules, so this wasnt a debate over whether Kurt Thomas would or wouldnt want to play for us.

And again just cause you "think" Thomas wouldnt sign for cheap, you dont know everything and if he wanted a ring he may do it.

I said sign Thomas to the minimum and that is possible.

So yet again you go away from the point and try to turn this into something its not.

As for kidd, he is old and will be older when he becomes a free agent. He will sign for either the minimum to win a championship or MLE. NO ONE will give him big bucks.

Im dont arguing with dunces.
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Post#117 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:54 pm

[quote="Flash is the Future"]-= original quote snipped =-


On 58% shooting from the field? :nonono:

You guys need defense, which is what Haslem brings. Blount is the price, but it's not like he's complete deadweight, which was the point. You guys need shooters around Dwight. That's what UD is, and that's what Blount is. Blount's basically a better version of Brian Cook. Blount would be the backup C. He's a good fit. If you're saying that Blount isn't needed, then why trade Ariza for Brian Cook+Evans?[/quote]

exactly..he's not needed because we did that deal for brian cook and evans..and blount is not better than cook..blount is avg more pts but also alot more mins..if cook was on heat roster right now he can do same thing blount is. We're not taking Blount for Haslem.
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Post#118 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:09 pm

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In this case lets just sign Arenas for the minimum and wait for LeBron to become a free agent and sign him for the MLE. You know, cause he wants to win a title. Turns out you understand the salary cap, you just live in the magical world of make believe. What you are proposing is beyond fairy tale, it simply will not happen.
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Post#119 » by miamiballer » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:12 pm

dont want blount? thats fine, look elsewhere for a big man
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Post#120 » by magicfan4life05 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:12 pm

oh noes!11!!
Dwight Howard on his FT struggles:

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