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B.J. Tyler. Very sad.

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B.J. Tyler. Very sad. 

Post#1 » by xqzt » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:15 pm

Never heard about this guy, but a dumb way to end your career.
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Post#2 » by CB4-TJ11-AB7 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:19 pm

OMG could you imagine. After a decade of work ending it because you feel asleep with ice on your knee. My God, the human body is an amazing thing
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Post#3 » by RINSE » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:19 pm

Yeah, I remember BJ Tyler.

The ice pack caused serious nerve damage which is why he had to retire.
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Post#4 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:22 pm

It'd be ironic if he had concerns about coming to play ball in Canada because he though it would be too cold...
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Post#5 » by evilRyu » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:26 pm

wow that is so sad to read... poor guy only played 1 season
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Post#6 » by Black Milk » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:31 pm

does anyone know what he did after basketball
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Post#7 » by sh00n » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:39 pm

That's insane, who would've thought?
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Post#8 » by MEDIC » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:44 pm

Thats why they suggest "10 min on, 10 min off"........
Hadn't actually heard of anyone that suffered and injury from keeping it on too long though......

Good story to keep in mind for future reference....
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Post#9 » by Shak23 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:55 pm

I remember this. He had a future in the NBA and with the Raptors, but it was unfortunate what happened.
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Post#10 » by J Dilla » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:28 pm

Damn, feel sorry for the guy.
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Post#11 » by chuckerz » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:34 pm

That must have been some really cold ice.
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Post#12 » by Theta64 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:39 pm

I just cannot believe this is possible. How cold was that ice pack to cause damage to his nerves. It would have to be incredibly cold, and even still, it would be warmed up by the surrounding tissue and air around it. When I use a cold pack, its coldness is gone in 30 minutes.

He must have done some kind of strenuous exercises on that knee soon after to damage it so severely. People climb mountains and withstand negative temperatures on certain body parts for hours, but the damaged tissue still heals itself.

I am sure their is more to this story than what the press has reported.
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Post#13 » by icoholic » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:45 pm

Terrible
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Post#14 » by YogiStewart » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:01 pm

dkhan02 wrote:does anyone know what he did after basketball


opened a Baskins & Robbins Ice Cream store?
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Post#15 » by mintsa » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:30 pm

He actually came to speak at my school during the Raps first season. Everyone thought it was going to be Damno and when they announced BJ Tyler everyone was like WTF ????
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Post#16 » by jdford » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:52 pm

Theta64 wrote:I just cannot believe this is possible. How cold was that ice pack to cause damage to his nerves. It would have to be incredibly cold, and even still, it would be warmed up by the surrounding tissue and air around it. When I use a cold pack, its coldness is gone in 30 minutes.

He must have done some kind of strenuous exercises on that knee soon after to damage it so severely. People climb mountains and withstand negative temperatures on certain body parts for hours, but the damaged tissue still heals itself.

I am sure their is more to this story than what the press has reported.


Let me assure you that it is definitely possible to cause nerve damage with direct contact.
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Post#17 » by Danchan » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:57 pm

one time, i was eating a popsicle, and i forgot to take it out of my mouth. It got stuck to the skin and it started bleeding real bad when i had to peel it off.
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Post#18 » by 40 Guzzle » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:09 pm

BJ got a job in the Raps front office afterwards for a couple of years, and he would show up at the downtown YMCA and ball, he was still the best player on the court.

At the end of the day, BJ was never going o be more than the 10th or 12th man on a bad roster. He also came with alot of baggage which included a rehab stint while he was at Texas.

Anyway, it is sad, but it's not like he was projected to be anything more than a role player, at best.
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Post#19 » by MEDIC » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:10 pm

Theta64 wrote:I just cannot believe this is possible. How cold was that ice pack to cause damage to his nerves. It would have to be incredibly cold, and even still, it would be warmed up by the surrounding tissue and air around it. When I use a cold pack, its coldness is gone in 30 minutes.

He must have done some kind of strenuous exercises on that knee soon after to damage it so severely. People climb mountains and withstand negative temperatures on certain body parts for hours, but the damaged tissue still heals itself.

I am sure their is more to this story than what the press has reported.


We don't know what he was using for a cold pack. I have read articles of nerve damage occurring from using a bag of frozen peas for > 30 min.

It is possible for a number of reasons:

1. He is resting, therefore his body is not producing heat (your comparison to mountain climbers)
2. You body's natural mechanism in cold temperature is to shunt blood away from peripheral tissue, towards the core of the body to ensure the vital organs are protected. (water heats and cools the body)
3. Blood flow to the area would be vastly reduced due to vasoconstriction, hence the tissue in the area not being perfused (oxygenated).
4. If the tissue in the area is not receiving O2, the anaerobic system kicks in, causing a build up of lactic acid.
5. The build up of lactic acid & other toxins has no way to become diluted & transported away from the site due to the lack of blood flow to the area. Lactic acid irritates nerves and other tissue.
6. Depending on what he was using to cool the area, it is possible for the tissue to suffer frostbite (the cells crystalize and damage).
7. The epithelial cells and musculoskeletal cells in the area can repair or replenish themselves. (even if the cells become necrotic/ die)
8. Nervous tissue (ie. brain matter/ nerves) does not replenish itself (as the surrounding tissue would). You know how they say that we only have so many brain cells & once they're gone, they're gone for good? Well, nerves are part of the nervous system & have the same characteristic.

So......the damaged skin & muscle in the area would repair itself, but the damaged nerves would remain damaged........
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Post#20 » by jonny three time » Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:14 pm

Danchan wrote:one time, i was eating a popsicle, and i forgot to take it out of my mouth. It got stuck to the skin and it started bleeding real bad when i had to peel it off.


:rofl: I don't know if your just joking or not but thats funny stuff

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