GT: Wizards @ Warriors, 2/11/08, 10:30 PM EST

[jimij]

Two people lost that game. Deshawn Stevenson and Eddie Jordan but at least DS was trying to win the game. Eddie frickin Jordan can only coach not to lose and always seems to almost try to give the game away with his ridiculous lineups. If it wasn't for the Big 3 continously bailing him out and the Wizards longtime futility he'd have been gone long ago.

The man can get a team ready to play like no ones business but my freaking cat could do a better job than him once the game starts.

[GilArenas88]

None of us are saying don't play Songalia, of course you have to play bench players. But any coach with a half a thick of a brain would see Haywood was 20 times more effective then Darius and wouldnt take Haywood out during the critical final minutes, it makes zero sense....

Whos down for an official thread to get Ayers as head coach...

[Donkey McDonkerton]

wow, that game was awesome....sucks TOTALLY sucks that we lost but I just cant throw a fit like the rest of you.

Nick Young needs to change his shoes, he was sliding all over the place. Building such a big lead at the beginning of a game can be a false sense of hope, the other team has so long to make a come back.

Songaila should still be sitting on the bench more, that guy is pretty worthless right now.

I cant wait until the all star break, because if we are losing games like this (with leads) with a healthy Caron and AD...and HOPEFULLY Arenas, then I will get upset. Until then I am just enjoying the game of basketball.

[rl25g]

Defensively, when Haywood was in the game during the 4th quarter he showed no ability whatsoever to match up w/ Golden State which is why EJ took him out. I actually think that this was the right move.

However, on the offensive side of the ball, EJ did a terrible, terrible job of having the guys run his offensive(which is supposed to be his strong point) In a late game situation you should not let a rookie shot jacker have complete freedom of the offense without running the sets. This is what killed the team at the end.

For the players it was a good game especially since only 8 guys played. With AD looking like he's going to play on Wednesday i would like to see Stevenson sit one out because he really looks like he's playing hurt.

[hands11]

if im brendan i demand a trade just about right now.

I might trade my fanship for a bag of doritos too if Eddie is employed for long

This puts some light on what happened last year. I actually admire Haywood for standing up to the insanity. Funny how so many people thought it was Haywoods fault.

[queridiculo]

You know what's scary? Whoopie will be back soon robbing yet more of Woods minutes.

[miller31time]

Defensively, when Haywood was in the game during the 4th quarter he showed no ability whatsoever to match up w/ Golden State which is why EJ took him out. I actually think that this was the right move.

However, on the offensive side of the ball, EJ did a terrible, terrible job of having the guys run his offensive(which is supposed to be his strong point) In a late game situation you should not let a rookie shot jacker have complete freedom of the offense without running the sets. This is what killed the team at the end.

For the players it was a good game especially since only 8 guys played. With AD looking like he's going to play on Wednesday i would like to see Stevenson sit one out because he really looks like he's playing hurt.

You don't think there was a small coincidence that when Haywood was in, there were hardly any layups or drives to the basket that were actually successful, and that when Haywood left, every possession ended in either an easy lane to the basket and a layup or an easy lane to the basket and a kickout for a wide open 3?

There's a small coincidence in there, somewhere.

[jimij]

[quote="gowiz999"]I actually thought we were going to break the losing slide after Dmac hit the 3 to the end the 3rd. Ah, wtf was I thinking. I should have known Brendan who was dominating would ride the pine down the stretch and Songaila would get big minutes.

It's not all Eddie though. The Wiz as a team just completely fall apart in the last few minutes of every game. They failed to get many key rebounds and took some very poor shots when it mattered most.[/quote]

To be fair to the team on the floor, it would help calm things down if we actually had a healthy PG on the roster who could break the press and initate the offense in crunch time against a pressure D. With no Daniels and no Gil, its really Abe's penny penching that's ensuring that we don't have a viable option at PG to help settle things down.

That said, its all Eddie's fault.....

[newslowsad]

wow, that game was awesome....sucks TOTALLY sucks that we lost but I just cant throw a fit like the rest of you.

Awesome if you're a Warriors fan. Let out the anger Donk, it feels good.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Gil will come back, depending on what Antawn does but he says he doesn't know right now.

Antawn will go for big money.

The case for keeping Eddie is the guys respect him and he's a guy Gil, Caron, and Antawn seem to respect.

Right now, the Wizards are falling completely out of the playoffs.

The WILL lose Gil and Antawn if that happens.

I'm thinking it's not a rash move to fire EJ or trade Antawn and/or Gil right now if value and stability come in return.

The Wizards started this losing streak on a bad loss and MANY of us just KNEW they'd lose a bunch.

After this one, they could lose 8 more in a row.

This team is heading nowhere fast. Something has to give.

[Yi Jian Lian]

im still in shock

[rl25g]

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You don't think there was a small coincidence that when Haywood was in, there were hardly any layups or drives to the basket that were actually successful, and that when Haywood left, every possession ended in either an easy lane to the basket and a layup or an easy lane to the basket and a kickout for a wide open 3?

There's a small coincidence in there, somewhere.

I do, but looking at it, EJ wanted to change the pace of the game. He did so and we actually were keeping up with the Warriors and maintaing the lead, but Jordan's obsession w/ Young at the end is what cost us, not Haywood coming out. The pace of the game needed to be changed but Jordan didnt even attempt to manage the offense when he needed to.

I just want Gil back now.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

This is not a loss because the team was shorthanded.

The coach sat Mason, Stevenson, and Haywood at critical periods and allowed shot jacking to save the day. Same CRAP he's done the past few season.

A good coach would have pounded it inside and stuck with Blatche and Haywood til both fouled out.

A good coach would NOT have brought Songaila back in. Geez, McGuire hit the lucky three and he'd have been a better bet than Darius.

Eddie really, really, really stunk tonight.

[RMJ]

THIS FUKEN SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[miller31time]

I do, but looking at it, EJ wanted to change the pace of the game. He did so and we actually were keeping up with the Warriors and maintaing the lead, but Jordan's obsession w/ Young at the end is what cost us, not Haywood coming out. The pace of the game needed to be changed but Jordan didnt even attempt to manage the offense when he needed to.

I just want Gil back now.

But that's EJ's problem. He wants to change the pace of the game, but doesn't realize that maybe the current pace is working and that it doesn't NEED to be changed.

What EJ did was play to Golden State's strengths. He does this ALL the time. He needs to be more proactive in his coaching.

Like someone else says, EJ doesn't play to win. He plays not to lose.

[hands11]

Two people lost that game. Deshawn Stevenson and Eddie Jordan but at least DS was trying to win the game. Eddie frickin Jordan can only coach not to lose and always seems to almost try to give the game away with his ridiculous lineups. If it wasn't for the Big 3 continously bailing him out and the Wizards longtime futility he'd have been gone long ago.

The man can get a team ready to play like no ones business but my freaking cat could do a better job than him once the game starts.

[rl25g]

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But that's EJ's problem. He wants to change the pace of the game, but doesn't realize that maybe the current pace is working and that it doesn't NEED to be changed.

What EJ did was play to Golden State's strengths. He does this ALL the time. He needs to be more proactive in his coaching.

Like someone else says, EJ doesn't play to win. He plays not to lose.

haha
i hate loosing arguments but you are right.
Especially about EJ playing not to lose.

This is a prime example of a game where we desperatly need a go-to scorer. Gil cannot come back soon enough.

[miller31time]

haha
i hate loosing arguments but you are right.
Especially about EJ playing not to lose.

This is a prime example of a game where we desperatly need a go-to scorer. Gil cannot come back soon enough.

No one wins this argument. We all end up losing.

[GilArenas88]

Everyone needs to come relize that until EJ is gone this is going to happen to us atleast 20 games per year...once in awhile we will get lucky and slip one out but the majority of time its going to end in our misery and another dissapointing loss, were EJ after the game says "I think we played well, we just made didnt make shots down the end, and they made some real tough shots". Same old story EJ has no knowledge how to close a game out, I dont think he's the worst coach out their I'd say average, but when it comes to closing out games, he's probably one of the dumbest their is out their. Its just frustrting to see this team play great ball for 3 quarters then EJ just completely throw it away with bad coaching, ridiculous substitutions and line-ups. Hey the players deserve some of the blame, but Eddie just sets this team up for failure, what the hell are these start of the 4th quarter line-ups of Mason, Young, DMac, Songalia and Blatche or occasionally Pecherov. And when Young is chucking it up with no regard for passing the ball, you sit their and run more ISOs for him. Man how I would love to be either a no hops, slow, undersized, offensively inept big man, like Ruffin, Thomas, or Songalia or a no regard for passing, I think Im Michael Jordan, chucking guard like Dixon, Hayes, or Young.

[rl25g]

the bitter part about the last two games is in both situations if we had a full roster w/ Gil and Caron we would have more than likely won based on how we played, and now we dont play Golden State or Pheonix again this season.
Revenge would be sweet.