Cammo's Trade Deadline Plan

[Cammo101]

Since I am sick of everyone elses (bad) ideas. Here is what I would do at the deadline.

Trade #1:

Orlando Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +4.9 ppg, +3.9 rpg, and +0.5 apg.

Incoming Players

Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 20.8 minutes

Outgoing Players

James Augustine
6-10 PF from Illinois
1.4 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 5.9 minutes

J.J. Redick
6-5 SG from Duke
3.6 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.2 minutes

2008 1st round pick

Milwaukee Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -4.9 ppg, -3.9 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

Incoming Players

James Augustine
6-10 PF from Illinois
1.4 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.1 apg in 5.9 minutes

J.J. Redick
6-5 SG from Duke
3.6 ppg, 0.4 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.2 minutes

2008 1st round pick

Outgoing Players

Charlie Villanueva
6-10 PF from Connecticut
9.9 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 20.8 minutes


Trade #2:

Orlando Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: -2.1 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and -2.6 apg.

Incoming Players

Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.8 minutes

Brian Cardinal
6-8 SF / PF from Purdue
3.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 9.3 minutes

3 million to buy out Cardinal

Outgoing Players

Fran Vazquez
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2007/08

Pat Garrity
6-9 PF from Notre Dame
1.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes

Carlos Arroyo
6-2 PG from Florida International
7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.6 apg in 21.0 minutes

Memphis Trade Breakdown

Change in Team Outlook: +2.1 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and +2.6 apg.

Incoming Players

Fran Vazquez
0-0 from
No games yet played in 2007/08

Pat Garrity
6-9 PF from Notre Dame
1.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes

Carlos Arroyo
6-2 PG from Florida International
7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 3.6 apg in 21.0 minutes

Outgoing Players

Javaris Crittenton
6-5 PG from Georgia Tech
3.3 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 0.8 apg in 7.8 minutes

Brian Cardinal
6-8 SF / PF from Purdue
3.3 ppg, 1.8 rpg, 0.7 apg in 9.3 minutes

3 million to buy out Cardinal


Final Roster:

Jameer/Dooling/Crittenton
Evans/Bogans
Hedo/Cook/FA SF
Shard/CV/Gortat/Outlaw
Dwight/Battie/Foyle


This may not be the huge splash some people want to make a run at the finals this year, but I think it is a move that allows us to sure up some holes without morgaging the future. Crittenton gives us a PG to build around, and it doesn't hurt that he and Dwight are buddy buddy. We are still a bit short at SG, but Evans and Bogans do ok and the MLE could be used to add one in the offseason.


Thoughts?

[EasternMagic]

ive suggested charlie v about 50000 times on this board

[magicman123]

nelson
hedo
lewis
villa
howard

[magician09]

I like it.

I think Charlie V would be an excellent acquisition. He may not be the answer at the 4 but I would prefer him coming in for 20 minutes or so than Brian Cook.

Critt is an up and comer at the point who could probably spend early days at the 2 because of his size and as you said, it doesn't hurt that he and Dwight went to the same High School.

We're not really giving up anything significant from the bench.

I would definitely do both trades.

[Happyfoosball]

Keep the friggen pick and draft a player that A. doesn't suck or B. doesn't run off to Europe.

[Last Guardian]

CV is not good enough defensively. We badly, badly need defense.

Trade #2 is good. We get rid of some garbage and get a big PG with some potential.

[bucsmagicfan]

CV is not good enough defensively. We badly, badly need defense.

Trade #2 is good. We get rid of some garbage and get a big PG with some potential.

I agree and disagree. Obviously CV is not a defensive minded PF but one of our biggest weaknesses is defensive rebounding and its obvious Dwight needs some help on the boards. I like both of the trades proposed, especially for the future.

[Dwightmare]

I would like CV too. He needs a fresh start and he could explode here in ORL. Maybe get him to work out with Dwight and Dwight's strength coach. CV is also a much more dimensional scorer than Cook. And Battie is the defensive big we are looking for BESIDES Dwight.

[Cammo101]

nelson
hedo
lewis
villa
howard

I would keep our starting lineup now. We can't have 5 scorers on the floor at once. Evans brings defense and selflessness to the starting lineup. Not to mention having Jameer and Hedo in the backcourt would get torched. Keep the starting lineup as is and use CV as the 6th man getting quasi-starter minutes. We can run with the lineup of Turk at the 2 some, but I wouldn't want it to be the starting lineup.

[AdamTheGreek]

Charlie V hurts this team as he is as inconsistent as they come.

[Cammo101]

CV is not good enough defensively. We badly, badly need defense.

Trade #2 is good. We get rid of some garbage and get a big PG with some potential.

CV is better than what we have now, and I am making deals as much for the future as now. Battie coming back will eventually fix the defense issue.

[314gmASTERmind]

Nice idea but doesn't work. Javaris Crittentons contract can not be combined with any other player. Recent trade restriction so that wont happen. I would like to have Crittenton and CV though.

[surflawyer]

Unless we get a great PF I dont do any trade. I don't think anyone has taken into consideration the true disaster moving Hedo to the SG or to the bench creates. There is a list as long as my arm of SG who would abuse Hedo on the Defensive side. Hedo is a decent defender at the SF and PF spot but not at the SG spot. We then lose by subtracting Bogans and Mogans decent D at the SG spot. We also loose Offense at the PF spot. If Hedo goes to the bench does Lewis get as many open shots? I dont like it.

What we need to trade for is EFFORT, HEART and the DESIRE to win.

[lovehoops01]

The thing I worry about adding CV is that he needs shots. He is a nice player. But the Magic don't need more players who need shots.

[MagicFan149]

[quote="surflawyer"]Unless we get a great PF I dont do any trade. I don't think anyone has taken into consideration the true disaster moving Hedo to the SG or to the bench creates. There is a list as long as my arm of SG who would abuse Hedo on the Defensive side. Hedo is a decent defender at the SF and PF spot but not at the SG spot. We then lose by subtracting Bogans and Mogans decent D at the SG spot. We also loose Offense at the PF spot. If Hedo goes to the bench does Lewis get as many open shots? I dont like it.

What we need to trade for is EFFORT, HEART and the DESIRE to win.[/quote]

what team do they paly for??? id like to make that trade

[surflawyer]

Unless we get a great PF I dont do any trade. I don't think anyone has taken into consideration the true disaster moving Hedo to the SG or to the bench creates. There is a list as long as my arm of SG who would abuse Hedo on the Defensive side. Hedo is a decent defender at the SF and PF spot but not at the SG spot. We then lose by subtracting Bogans and Mogans decent D at the SG spot. We also loose Offense at the PF spot. If Hedo goes to the bench does Lewis get as many open shots? I dont like it.

What we need to trade for is EFFORT, HEART and the DESIRE to win.[/quote]

what team do they paly for??? id like to make that trade

Right On!

[MagicFan149]

seriously ... where do they play?

[surflawyer]

seriously ... where do they play?

Detroit, Dallas, San Antonio, Boston ect.........

[314gmASTERmind]

The thing I worry about adding CV is that he needs shots. He is a nice player. But the Magic don't need more players who need shots.

We need players who can MAKE SHOTS. CV can. Seems to not have the killer instinct ala Hedo this year so maybe you try to find that in a pg. Then you have killer PG, Hedo, Dwight. Then there are skilled unselfish players like lewis and CV that can put the biscuit in the basket.

[MagicFan149]

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Detroit, Dallas, San Antonio, Boston ect.........

none of which will help us get better dang