Clipper trade for Maggette

[Mr Odd]

Davis can't be dealt because he'd fail his physical (torn ACL).

Oo.. .I did not know that.

How about this??

Williams
Maggette

for

Green
Jack
Przybilla

It would leave us with only Blake, Sergio & Roy
at the PG but we would get Williams contract &
hes somewhat of a big body that can bang.. .

[Effigy]

Maggette is always hurt though. I'm not sure I'd want him. Also we'd be using all our cap room to resign him. Is that who we want to spend it on?

[Spykes]

Maggette is always hurt though. I'm not sure I'd want him. Also we'd be using all our cap room to resign him. Is that who we want to spend it on?

That's not entirely true. If we structure the contract correctly, he might not cost a lot more than what we'd already have been paying Przybilla

[PDXKnight]

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That's not entirely true. If we structure the contract correctly, he might not cost a lot more than what we'd already have been paying Przybilla

Not to mention this could be an option for "captonics" as I like to call it. KP as we all know has big plans in the 09' FA (most of which are probably pipe dreams) and if he's still headed in that direction, I could see him letting go of magette if the FA market looks good then.

[pr0nny]

If Corey is healthy I do this easily. We're not doing anything this season, we have Oden coming in and another backup C could be had via trade/FA/draft.

[swede]

I aint a huge Magette fan, but as much as we would probably suck the rest of this year if G.O. comes back strong and we do something like say take at Roy Hibbert in the mid teens oooh my.

[Wizenheimer]

there are a lot of comments in this thread along the lines of "portland can trade pryzbilla and just find another center through the draft or free agency"

I think that's completely unrealistic

Pryzbilla ranks 8th in the NBA in reb per48, ahead of guys like tim duncan, emeka okafor, carlos boozer, yao ming, and kevin garnett.

He's also capable of playing good defense and with him in the lineup, portland doesn't have to resort to to zone defense as much

portland isn't going to be able to go out and find anybody close to comparable

and while we'd all like to think that Oden will dominate from the beginning next season, the truth is he'll be coming back from a major surgery, and he'll only be 20 years old and won't have played for over 18 months.

It would be prudent to have pryzbilla as both insurance and as backup

[swede]

I'm sorry but the more that Joel tries to take charges 50% of the time he is out there the more useless he gets. He is a complete liability on one side of the ball and is completely overrated IMO. The Thrilla has been decent at drawing charges and regressed in his weakside defense IMO.

[TBpup]

I also think it would be tough to get a backup center as good as Joel. However, I think Magette is a much better piece to build with. He could be used in a S&T in '09 to get someone like Paul since there is no way either they are going to let him walk or he would walk away from all that money.

If he truely wanted to leave, he could sign, then be traded for pieces like Magette + + which Portland would have the pieces to make happen. By then you would have your backup center and really be looking at a serious title run.

[SinceClyde]

I would love Maggette.

[Wizenheimer]

I also think it would be tough to get a backup center as good as Joel. However, I think Magette is a much better piece to build with. He could be used in a S&T in '09 to get someone like Paul since there is no way either they are going to let him walk or he would walk away from all that money.

If he truely wanted to leave, he could sign, then be traded for pieces like Magette + + which Portland would have the pieces to make happen. By then you would have your backup center and really be looking at a serious title run.

ahh...the Chris Paul factor again! I guess the dream never dies

I also don't think your assumption that by 2009 portland would "have the backup center" is very realistic, unless you're willing to settle for a significant downgrade from Joel.

I suppose KP might consider going after DeSegana Diop this summer. He'll be UFA and may be had for the full MLE. Keeping both Maggette and Diop long term would pinch that damn cap-space plan though.

[TBpup]

ahh...the Chris Paul factor again! I guess the dream never dies

I did say "someone like Chris Paul". Personally, that doesn't seem very likely but that is the name most people throw around when talking about cap space that year and he is about the only one available then that would be worth the kind of cap space Portland would have.

As for Joel, I like what he brings on the defensive end but also think it is possible that the Blazers could acquire a no-offense, strictly defensive center that Nate is reluctant to play when defense is needed anyway...that is not far fetched to me.

[d-train]

There is no way I'm going to believe Clippers offered Maggette for Jack and Przybilla. Sterling would never pickup Przybilla's contract. Clippers might offer Maggette for a package including Jack but Sterling isn't going to swallow Joel's contract.

[Mr Odd]

There is no way I'm going to believe Clippers offered Maggette for Jack and Przybilla. Sterling would never pickup Przybilla's contract. Clippers might offer Maggette for a package including Jack but Sterling isn't going to swallow Joel's contract.

Yea, I have to agree with that.

I do hope its wrong tho and there
is a deal being worked on.. .

[d-train]

If there is a nugget of truth to be encouraged by in this rumor, it's that maybe the Blazers are trying to move Przybilla. Oden is going to be back next year and he will be our center for 38-40 minutes per game. Joel can barely get off the bench for 20 minutes while the Blazers have no other center. If Nate would go without a center for 28 minutes per game rather than play Joel, what makes anyone think he will ever play Joel while he has the best young center since Duncan was a rookie for 40 minutes? We could sure use the extra salary cap space in 2009/10 that moving Joel would give.

[TBpup]

d-train... ^ excellent point. KP will continue to try and make moves until this is a championship type roster...that is not yet the case. Development still has to occur but the team is still short a rebounder off the bench (which I suppose Joel could be) and another playmaker opposite Roy or when he is on the bench. Also, they are still without a playoff level PG.

[Billy]

I've thought a little bit about the whole Joel Przybilla thing. I'll start off with saying that I like the guy, he's a great worker, and he does a lot of the little things that a lot of our other guys haven't learned to do quite yet.

Joel is probably considered a bargain by most standards. He's a great rebounder and shot blocker, he's a solid locker room guy from best we can tell, and he's one of the few guys willing to mix it up a little.

But does Joel fit long term for Portland? The signing at the time was huge for the franchise. The Blazers still were suffering through a litany of issues both on and off the court. The youth movement looked atrocious at times. One of the few bright spots was Joel.

At the time, that contract was huge for two reasons. For one, the piddly Trail Blazers managed to keep a free agent away from the Spurs and Pistons while not having to offer double the money. Of course Portland paid more, but the difference seemed negligible compared to the shot in the arm the franchise received.

Secondly Joel still was looking like the guy Portland would have manning the center spot for a while. He was only 24 or so, 4 years removed from being a lotto pick. Portland was the first team to give him a chance on the floor and he took it. Obviously no one felt he would be the next Shaq or Hakeem, but I think it would have been reasonable to hope that he could develop into a 8-10 point, 10-12 rebound, 2-3 block per game center given the improvements he had shown. Considering his age and lack of opportunity before the Trail Blazers came along I don't think that would be too huge of a stretch.

At the time Joel Przybilla meant a lot more to the Trail Blazer than he would to any other team in the league.

Now we've seen really what kind of a player he is. That's certainly not a bad thing. He is capable and probably could deliver the stat line above if given 35 minutes a game. But with Oden coming in next year, Portland should be able to expect even more out of Oden. Meanwhile, do you want to pay 6.5 - 7 million a year for a backup 15 mpg center, or do you want to move him for a player that would shore up another position and/or create extra cap room?

D-train made an excellent point. He's not playing much now anyway. If he can't get off the bench for more than 20mpg is he going to get off the bench even less with Oden around? Throw in a possibly bigger and more improved Aldridge/Frye duo and you may need him even less.

I'm not saying trade Joel Przybilla, just trying to mention a couple of points. Cap space is a dangerous thing to put eggs into. But part of this may come down to this: do you want a shot at a big time free agent--even if it means you don't get him, or do you want to pay a backup center 21 million over the next 3 seasons? Obviously you need a backup center, but as was stated backup centers aren't impossible to find. But Portland probably won't see an opportunity to mingle with a big time FA until Roy, Aldridge and Oden are looking long in the tooth. You can probably find a backup big man to pay 6.5 million a year to without a whole lot of problems.