A new Nets' deal we can help to faciliate?

Telfaire · Post #1 » by **Telfaire** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:03 pm

Now it seems like the next move for the Nets is moving VC...Here's a way we can help the Knicks get him, and benefit:
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=761656

Our part in it - Raef, Miles and Jack for Marbury and Magloire:

Blazers dump Miles, get more capspace and help on the boards with Magloire. Marbury, like Francis, will not wear a Blazers uniform. Along with Magloire being an expiring, this trade opens up 3 roster spots for the summer, not to mention sends Jack away so the spaniards would be the primary backups at the backcourt.

Post #2 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:29 pm

I know people aren't huge Vince Carter fans, but with NJ officially in rebuild mode, I'd give the Nets a serious lowball offer for Carter. Raef for Carter, straight up. Just see if they bite.

Telfaire · Post #3 » by **Telfaire** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:38 pm

Dont think they would...at least include Jack, even then they'll demand our lottery pick.

Post #4 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:51 pm

Telfaire wrote:Dont think they would...at least include Jack, even then they'll demand our lottery pick.

They'll be stuck with a unhappy Carter for awhile then.

Granted, they'd obviously want more for Carter, but his value is gonna just continue to sink. He hasn't played with an once of passion since he signed his contract this past summer, and that likely won't improve with Kidd gone and the team officially in rebuild mode.

With all that said, it does beg the inevitable question of "Why would Portland want Carter?" I doubt they'd have a serious interest in him, which is why I'd only give such a lowball offer. If they laugh us off the phone, so be it.

Napoleon7 · Post #5 » by **Napoleon7** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:10 am

Carter with 4 years left on his contract (last year is a team option though)...................that's tough..................

I'd just rather we persue other trade options then Carter.

Post #6 » by **BlackMamba** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:18 am

well... i don't know, a part of me would say good, magloire back as a blazer. the other part says, no way, he was already here, he did what?

541Blaza · Post #7 » by **541Blaza** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:28 am

I could see KP making a run at RJ, he's a good player, and a good guy. Plus he's buddies with Channing from their Arizona days. Forget Carter, I wouldn't take him for free...not with that contract and that lazy ass attitude.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #8 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:45 am

I think trading Raef and Jack for Carter would be a runaway steal for this team.

I know he is lackluster in the 'heart' department, but he might get a type of resurgance surrounded by so many young, enthueastic and talented players.

Post #9 » by **Spykes** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:14 am

541Blaza wrote:I could see KP making a run at RJ, he's a good player, and a good guy. Plus he's buddies with Channing from their Arizona days. Forget Carter, I wouldn't take him for free...not with that contract and that lazy ass attitude.

RJ would be a fantastic fit for Portland, but I think the Nets will want to build around Harris and RJ.

Post #10 » by **Mr Odd** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:15 am

If NJ gets those players from the Mavs
I have a feeling NJ will think they can
get a good deal on VC like with Kidd.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #11 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:25 am

First off, the Nets are keeping RJ to build around. Its clear as day that the asking price of Jefferson would be insane.

Secondly, I doubt they believe they can get a Kidd like deal for Vince. Dallas traded for Kidd because Jason has unbelievable intangables. Vince has none.

Post #12 » by **Spykes** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:29 am

Mr Odd wrote:If NJ gets those players from the Mavs
I have a feeling NJ will think they can
get a good deal on VC like with Kidd.

Gotta give Rod Thorn a lot of credit, he's made some really great trades for NJ in the recent past.

*He traded away Eddie Griffin for Richard Jefferson and Jason Collins on draft day.
*He let Martin and his bad knee walk away to the Nuggets.
*He got Vince Carter for absolutely NOTHING. The Raptors got less for Carter than the Grizzlies just got for Gasol.
*He passed on Shareef Abdur-Rahim when he couldn't live up to the standards of their medical exam.
*Now he's on the brink of getting Devan Harris, 2 first round picks and a collection of expiring contracts for an over-the-hill Kidd.

The guy has a strong track record of making really smart decisions.

Ricepilar · Post #13 » by **Ricepilar** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:15 am

^^^^

He also got Jason Kidd in his prime for Stephon Marbury.

Portland would be crazy to go after Vince Carter. His shot selection is terrible. His defense is terrible. Even when he's "energized," he doesnt win anything.

I dont think the Nets would consider moving Jefferson, but he'd be a great pick up for Portland.

AZ BLAZER · Post #14 » by **AZ BLAZER** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:26 am

Spykes wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Gotta give Rod Thorn a lot of credit, he's made some really great trades for NJ in the recent past.

*He traded away Eddie Griffin for Richard Jefferson and Jason Collins on draft day.
*He let Martin and his bad knee walk away to the Nuggets.
*He got Vince Carter for absolutely NOTHING. The Raptors got less for Carter than the Grizzlies just got for Gasol.
*He passed on Shareef Abdur-Rahim when he couldn't live up to the standards of their medical exam.
*Now he's on the brink of getting Devan Harris, 2 first round picks and a collection of expiring contracts for an over-the-hill Kidd.

The guy has a strong track record of making really smart decisions.

Which is why I want nothing to do with "Half man, half a season!"

Milkdud · Post #15 » by **Milkdud** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:30 am

There is pretty much no way we could pry RJ from the Nets, or at least none that Portland would like. As for getting VC even if we could get him for cheap isn't worth it. His contract is huge and for 3-4 years. On top of that are really don't see a trade to the blazers would energize VC. Considering how formidable the west is getting for the next 2-3 I don't he'd want to be on the blazers who will still have growing pains.

Post #16 » by **Spykes** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:35 am

AZ BLAZER wrote:Which is why I want nothing to do with "Half man, half a season!"

That's a pretty good point. If a GM as smart as Throne is letting us having Carter for "cheap", there's probably a good reason he's doing so.

Milkdud · Post #17 » by **Milkdud** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:42 am

honestly how long til VC would try to pout his way out the rose city.

pr0nny · Post #18 » by **pr0nny** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:50 am

Spykes wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Gotta give Rod Thorn a lot of credit, he's made some really great trades for NJ in the recent past.

*He traded away Eddie Griffin for Richard Jefferson and Jason Collins on draft day.
*He let Martin and his bad knee walk away to the Nuggets.
*He got Vince Carter for absolutely NOTHING. The Raptors got less for Carter than the Grizzlies just got for Gasol.
*He passed on Shareef Abdur-Rahim when he couldn't live up to the standards of their medical exam.
*Now he's on the brink of getting Devan Harris, 2 first round picks and a collection of expiring contracts for an over-the-hill Kidd.

The guy has a strong track record of making really smart decisions.

Plus he drafted The Great One.

GoBlazersGo · Post #19 » by **GoBlazersGo** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:20 am

pr0nny wrote:Plus he drafted The Great One.

Wait a second... I thought Ivan Chiriaev went undrafted?

Post #20 » by **SD2042** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:11 pm

Milkdud wrote:honestly how long til VC would try to pout his way out the rose city.

Why would Portland consider VC to begin with? The Blazers should consider jumping into the Kidd sweepstakes since it appears that Devean George of all ppl blocked the trade on yesterday and going 0-11 on top of that.