OT: Kidd to Dallas Imminent?

[Spykes]

Wow, this deal reeks of desperation on behalf of the Mavs. I'm really surprised that they'd be willing to give up Harris.

[breaker91]

^I think they were willing to give him up all along. It's hard to say how Portland got involved in the 3 team swap. Maybe it was initiated by Rod Thorn? We definitely had the young talent he was looking for, but the dealbreaker for the Mavs in that scenario could have been that a conference rival was getting Harris. At least in this deal they send their most talented asset to the other conference.

[d-train]

Of course, I agree with the skeptics. No way Cuban pays Kidd $40 million and gives something of value to the Nets. This rumor is either false or is being grossly misreported.

[Spykes]

Of course, I agree with the skeptics. No way Cuban pays Kidd $40 million and gives something of value to the Nets. This rumor is either false or is being grossly misreported.

If it was one source from one sports writer saying this, then I'd be a bit skeptical too. But considering this is all over the web on every sports site imaginable and even a player involved in the trade is talking about it being done (Stackhouse)... I'd say this has a pretty high probability of being true.

The details still were being worked out, but Stackhouse said his agent told him the trade would be completed.

"Now I think it's pretty much a done deal," Stackhouse told The Associated Press.

Stackhouse added that he may be able to rejoin Dallas within 30 days, an indication the Nets would buy out his contract.

"I feel great. I get 30 days to rest, then I'll be right back," he said. "I ain't going nowhere."

[Spykes]

I'm perfectly fine with Pritchard standing pat right now. As fun as it is to see trades, this is a dangerous time for GM's. They can easily screw things up at this time of the year and especially in this sort of trading climate. I every big move that's been made this month, you can always see one side really getting the 'short end of the stick'... if you will. First, the Grizzlies absolutely got owned by the Lakers. Then the Suns made a desperate retaliation trade and took on Shaq's gigantic contract. Now the Mavs are sacrificing their future for a very old Jason Kidd in a deal that really help them compete with the revamped Lakers and Suns since they'll still have a weak frontcourt.

Unless there's a no-brainer of a deal, I applaud Pritchard for standing pat.

[BlackMamba]

well, i think if the mavs want to have better chances of winning an nba title in the next 2-3 years TOPs they have to make this deal and get kidd.

as for the blazers, i don't think there are many deals that would really get this team moving.

the real only piece that is missing is oden, he's supposed to be the cornerstone of the team, so until the team can see themselves with oden on the court in official nba games there's no way of knowing what is missing from the blazers.

cause right now we could say a true pg or some other things, that maybe once oden is playing would change things and make jack and blake look like all-stars.

but then again, i've been wrong before...

[Mr Odd]

I am sure KP is going to lose a few nights Sleep knowing your Disappointed in him MR. Odd.


ROFL @ Mr. Odd

Huh??

[R11]

I think all this recent WC trading has largely been the result of a couple different factors. First, the Ainge/Celtics effect. Other teams have seen the quick success the Celtics have had with their "all star" approach. The other is the Oden effect. Somewhere recently I saw a quote from an unnamed WC team official who said that he felt that Portland landing Oden was pushing other teams to upgrade now and I think he's right. Combining the two effects together, especially for Dallas and the Suns who's windows are not going to be open long term, and teams are looking to make some hay while the sun shines for them. Of course being a PDX homer it's easy to look at it like that, but I really think that's the crux of it.


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[Mr Odd]

Devin George blocked the trade.

I guess they have to rework it.

[d-train]

Devin George blocked the trade.

I guess they have to rework it.

Lol, George earned his contract by blocking Cuban from making a stupid trade.

[SoHo]

I agree with that sentiment R11

I think the rise of Portland (as a young team this season and the prospect of adding Oden) coupled with teams like Utah and New Orleans makes teams like the Mavs and Suns who aren't as young worried.

If you're team is made up of 30 somethings and you start seeing the lower playoff seeds filled by teams with 20 somethings you know it's time to start thinking about making one final push.

[Spykes]

LOL @ George blocking the deal. That's hilarious.

[Dakotah612]

[Spykes]

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I guess this George thing is a pretty big snag for the Mavs. So much so that it could completely kill the deal. Without George, the Mavs don't have the salaries to match up a deal for Kidd. Then, with the KVH situation, the Mavs don't want to do a S&T with him because they'll end up having to pay the luxury tax this summer and Cuban has said he won't do that. They're kinda sunk.

[d-train]

I don't think it's about bird rights. I think it's about what's in it for me, which is a fair question. The Mavs gave him that veto clause as part of his compensation package so why not use it.

[Milkdud]

Omg, George for the win . Honestly. Cuban just needs to pay the man somehow and get the trade back on. Or suck it up and do the Van Horn sign in trade. If he wants the mavs to be in the top of the west hes gonna have to pay.

[Wizenheimer]

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I guess this George thing is a pretty big snag for the Mavs. So much so that it could completely kill the deal. Without George, the Mavs don't have the salaries to match up a deal for Kidd. Then, with the KVH situation, the Mavs don't want to do a S&T with him because they'll end up having to pay the luxury tax this summer and Cuban has said he won't do that. They're kinda sunk.

I'm unclear why a sign and trade of van horn would cause the mavs to go over the luxury tax.

I read somewhere this evening that the trade still works salary-wise if Jones replaces george in the trade. However, he has 2 years left on his contract so NJ may gripe about that. it's a small contract though so I don't know why that would kill the deal.

[Spykes]

I'm unclear why a sign and trade of van horn would cause the mavs to go over the luxury tax.

I don't know the specifics either, that's just what Chris Boussard said on Sportscenter. I could look it up, but I really don't feel like it right now.

[TBpup]

Because adding KVH's salary would increase their cap number over the alloted amount and they would take back players for Van Horn's salary versus taking back players for their own they were shipping out.

[glide22]

i know we've done this one to death, but if there was ever a time to get in on this deal on our own terms, it seems like now is that time. not even sure what i'd propose -- okay, i'll throw out version number 472.

outlaw, jack, lafrenz and green going out.
harris, hassel and bass coming back.

nj: kidd and malik allen out, lafrenz, outlaw, stack, diop and green in.
dallas: harris, hassel, stack, diop and bass out, kidd, jack and allen coming back. maybe have some picks change hands.

08-09:
harris, blake, sergio
roy, rudy, hassel
martell, james jones
aldridge, frye, bass
oden, przybilla
plus pick

(we're not doing anything, are we?)