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Post#1 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:53 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

Take Bogut back to Utah. Bring Okur to Milwaukee so this team can do what it really wants to do......Shoot jumpers on every possession. I actually kind of like this trade for both sides.

Bogut/Bell/Voskuhl for Okur/Hart
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Post#2 » by Dags » Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:56 pm

If the Bucks want a guard-centric offense then they need a blue collar rebounding shot blocker in the centre. Okur is not that guy. Dalembert is. Okafor could be. Haywood is.
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Post#3 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:00 pm

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Re: TI with Bogut Involved 

Post#4 » by JHSFIVE » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:06 pm

Bogutneedsball wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1034~2747~879~312~1014&teams=26~26~26~15~15&te=&cash=

Take Bogut back to Utah. Bring Okur to Milwaukee so this team can do what it really wants to do......Shoot jumpers on every possession. I actually kind of like this trade for both sides.

Bogut/Bell/Voskuhl for Okur/Hart


Hells no!

I'll take his wifey though.

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Post#5 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:09 pm

We are getting rid of Bell....Which is a positive.

Keep in mind with our new offense Bogut will more than likely be less involved. He will go into a shell and his defense and rebounding will probably suffer as well.
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Post#6 » by Newz » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:11 pm

Why would you trade Bogut straight up for Okur? He is younger with more of an upside... Not to mention he is producing more this season.

Makes no sense what so ever.
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Post#7 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:15 pm

Well I think Utah would have to include their 1st rounder and I think getting rid of Bell is a huge positive.

Plus if we are going back to having our bigs set screens at the top of the key wouldn't it be beneficial to have one that could shoot. Okur did score 18 a game the last two years. I don't see that ever happening for Bogut in Milwaukee.
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Post#8 » by xTitan » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:28 pm

I think there may be a better then average chance Bogut ends up in Utah when his contract expires...playing with Deron Williams would be great for Bogut.
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Post#9 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:30 pm

xTitan wrote:I think there may be a better then average chance Bogut ends up in Utah when his contract expires...playing with Deron Williams would be great for Bogut.


Thats another reason to shop him...I think he will leave after his contract.
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Post#10 » by nwy2211 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:37 pm

Unfortunately from what I have been reading on here, it seems Bogut is most likely on his way out and I can't say i blame him
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Post#11 » by BobbyLight » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:37 pm

xTitan wrote:I think there may be a better then average chance Bogut ends up in Utah when his contract expires...playing with Deron Williams would be great for Bogut.


Where exactly does he play if Boozer, Okur and AK47 are around. He wouldn't be getting many minutes.
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Post#12 » by xTitan » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:51 pm

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Where exactly does he play if Boozer, Okur and AK47 are around. He wouldn't be getting many minutes.


Are you kidding, they would dump Okur in a minute, Bogut would be perfect fit for Utah, unselfish players Bogut is a low post presence defensively they don't have....and teammates who can pass to the post :clap: . I think Bogut, Boozer, Williams, Brewer.....are championship caliber.
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Post#13 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:00 pm

Horrendous trade. No explanation is even needed.

If you're more worried about Bogut's stats than this team doing well, go root for some other goddam team.
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Post#14 » by howe070523 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:07 pm

xTitan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Are you kidding, they would dump Okur in a minute, Bogut would be perfect fit for Utah, unselfish players Bogut is a low post presence defensively they don't have....and teammates who can pass to the post :clap: . I think Bogut, Boozer, Williams, Brewer.....are championship caliber.

Are you kidding? Okur is a damn fine post defender. He is at least as good as Bogut if not better. He also creates mismatches on the offensive end with his 3 pointers
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Post#15 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:08 pm

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Are you kidding? Okur is a damn fine post defender. He is at least as good as Bogut if not better. He also creates mismatches on the offensive end with his 3 pointers


:rofl: :rofl:

Wow.
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Post#16 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:08 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Horrendous trade. No explanation is even needed.

If you're more worried about Bogut's stats than this team doing well, go root for some other goddam team.


Well pretty sure the team is not doing well and all people talk about is trading Mo and Redd. Thought I would throw a Bogut deal out there that brought a screener that is also an excellent shooter.

He would obviously fit in better with last year's offense.
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Post#17 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:10 pm

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Well pretty sure the team is not doing well and all people talk about is trading Mo and Redd. Thought I would throw a Bogut deal out there that brought a screener that is also an excellent shooter.


And a worse player with no upside.

Bogut is a rebounder and has now added shotblocking, and you want to trade him for a SOFT jumpshooter.

Hmm, let me think, no.
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Post#18 » by Fight the Tank » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:11 pm

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And a worse player with no upside.

Bogut is a rebounder and has now added shotblocking, and you want to trade him for a SOFT jumpshooter.

Hmm, let me think, no.


You are disregarding getting rid of Bell and a possible 1st round pick.
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Post#19 » by howe070523 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:11 pm

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:rofl: :rofl:

Wow.

Have you watched any Utah game?
Go watch how he defended Yao and TD in last years playoffs.
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Post#20 » by LUKE23 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:13 pm

howe070523 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Have you watched any Utah game?
Go watch how he defended Yao and TD in last years playoffs.


Okur is the worst defender in the Jazz starting five and it isn't close. Bogut is probably the top center at taking charges in the league and is averaging almost 2 blocks per game besides, not to mention being much younger.

Bucks would never offer this. Never.

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