Joey Graham is worth a second round pick?

Graham's Cracker · Post #21 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:56 pm

I agree with Petey.

There has to be some team out there that feels Joey is worth a 2nd rounder.

I kinda feel bad for him, because I don't see him playing with any less effort than most guys. He has shown some nice aggressive moves this year, and his jumpshot has improved alot since he first arrived.

Hard to blame the guy when he cant get any PT or rythym and he never will hear as long as we have a glut of swings.

Fairview4Life · Post #22 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:06 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asked for a trade. Joey needs to play somewhere this year in order to get another contract.

raptorscam · Post #23 » by **raptorscam** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:07 pm

Boogie! wrote:can we stop throwing around the word "bust"? do we really expect every late drafted player to be a quality role player or all-star?

excellent point, you can spend as little as five minutes looking back at drafts to realize that after about the 6th or 7th pick there are tons of guys taken who don't pan out. Bad picks are one thing but if you think a guy drafted 16th overall has a chance to be a "bust", you need to adjust your expectations.

douggood · Post #24 » by **douggood** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:09 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if his agent asked for a trade. Joey needs to play somewhere this year in order to get another contract.

Raps already picked up the option on his contract for next year. And wright trade is part of the kidd package, so not comparable. But some team might be willing to use a trade exemption on him and give up a 2nd, didnt we get 2 2nds for aaron williams.

mintsa · Post #25 » by **mintsa** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:30 pm

ponder276 wrote:Delfino is worth two 2nds, and Joey is significantly worse than Delfino. One 2nd sounds about right.

Loooking at it like that, one 2nd rounder makes sense.

Graham's Cracker · Post #26 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:32 pm

Joey has value for the same reason he was drafted. Scouts and GM like his physical tools.

I really think if a bad team were to pick him up and play him decent minutes, he would perform well and they could turn around and get better value for him next season.

davkad · Post #27 » by **davkad** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:48 pm

depend who the second round pick is - a lot of teams throw them away (and for good reason).

If it's a Chris Taft type guy, sure he's worth a 2nd. But if it's a valued prospect like Scola, Ukic, Eliyahu, etc. then there's no way i'd give it up for Joey.

I think at this point, you have to take a second for Joey - he's not going to be a part of this team's future (although he could be a solid pro if put in the right situation, where they will live through his mistakes - Minnesota? Miami?)
Draft or questionable prospect, and hope you hit the lottery (e.g. Redd, Gilbert, Shawn Williams, Big Baby, and the list goes on....)

Air Canada · Post #28 » by **Air Canada** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:44 pm

Joey has very little trade value, wed be lucky to get a 2nd round pick

scobes · Post #29 » by **scobes** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:21 pm

peteyjones13 wrote:If I was a different team, I would give the Raps a 2nd round pick for Joey Graham. Call me crazy, but Joey can be still a player in this league.

Your crazy.

will · Post #30 » by **will** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:26 pm

Air Canada wrote:Joey has very little trade value, wed be lucky to get a 2nd round pick

Exactly.

The mere fact that anyone would want to trade an asset for Joey would be great.

ldnk · Post #31 » by **ldnk** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:50 pm

I don't know, but the way things are going, Rasho, Dixon, Graham and a 1st seems like it could be enough to acquire at least a pseudo-superstar/all-star.

yucatan87 · Post #32 » by **yucatan87** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:48 pm

raptorscam wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

excellent point, you can spend as little as five minutes looking back at drafts to realize that after about the 6th or 7th pick there are tons of guys taken who don't pan out. Bad picks are one thing but if you think a guy drafted 16th overall has a chance to be a "bust", you need to adjust your expectations.

Exactly. Teams are extremely fortunate to get a starter in the mid-to-late 1st round. You're looking at somebody that maybe will fill out the bottom of your rotation at that point. Getting an all-star-type player or a superstar is practically impossible.

JN · Post #33 » by JN » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:50 pm

supersub15 wrote:read more here

ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reports that the Nets and the Mavs were likewise poised to complete a separate trade that will send swingman Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

Please tell me that Joey is worth more than that?

Why would you expect more? Wright is worth more because if he sucks in his new environment you don't have to still pay him in 2008/2009

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