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Another DET/CHAR trade?

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Another DET/CHAR trade? 

Post#1 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:10 am

WE GET:
SG Jason Richardson
PF Emeka Okafor
SF Gerald Wallace


THEY GET:
SG Rip Hamilton
PF Antonio McDyess
PF Jason Maxiell
SF Tayshaun Prince

We become:
Billups / Stuckey
Richardson / Afflalo
Wallace / Hayes
Okafor / Amir / Herrmann
Wallace / Brezec / Samb
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Post#2 » by ajaX82 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:19 am

PP returns from the grave!

And still with insane trades. What would MJ have to be smoking to go with this?
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Post#3 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:26 am

Wow. The nun using the computer is a sight for sore eyes if I ever saw one.

But yeah, this trade is a tad on the crazy side. Rip is better than JRich right now, but Wallace is miles ahead of Prince and Okafor for Max/Dice is a no brainer for us too.
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Post#4 » by RTM » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:29 am

Though the deal is lopsided in our favor, I'm going to go ahead and say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
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Post#5 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:30 am

What if we threw in a 1st rounder?
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Post#6 » by Snakebites » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:32 am

^That would be a band-aide. I dont really think this deal is within "tweaking" range.
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Post#7 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:37 am

What if we did McDyess, Maxiell, and 1st rounder for Okafor and cap filler?
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Post#8 » by Piston Pete » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:44 am

I want Okafor!

McDyess
Maxiell
Hayes (cap space)
1st rounder

for Okafor and Morrison. Morrison is extremely expendable seeing that Charlotte has Wallace, Carroll, and Dudley all locked up to long-term deals.
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Post#9 » by srt4b » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:51 am

Better idea, how about we just swap jerseys with Charlotte.
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Post#10 » by nasty daddy » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:40 am

Piston Pete wrote:What if we threw in a 1st rounder?
Yeah i think that would be could be the deal breaker. :rofl:
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Post#11 » by Dirtgrain » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:23 pm

I don't think Charlotte will give up their big man unless they get much more.
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Post#12 » by jonbarry3pts » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:01 pm

I think this boards infatuation with Gerald Wallace would end pretty quickly if he was actually on the Pistons.

He is one of the lowest B-ball IQ players in the league, has no jump shot, and isn't nearly as effective playing small forward as he is when he is using his speed to beat power forwards off the dribble.
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Post#13 » by roc » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:15 pm

jonbarry3pts wrote:I think this boards infatuation with Gerald Wallace would end pretty quickly if he was actually on the Pistons.

He is one of the lowest B-ball IQ players in the league, has no jump shot, and isn't nearly as effective playing small forward as he is when he is using his speed to beat power forwards off the dribble.

He is having another stellar season and is playing at SF most nights.

There was this one time at band camp err against the Pistons when he ran the point due to all their PGs being out injured. For someone with such a low BBall IQ he did a good job keeping the game tight right up to the vey end.

There is a good reason why Cat's fans hold him in such high regard.
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Post#14 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:31 pm

I would not want to deal Rip right now.

I could see moving Prince/Max for Wallace.

I think Charlotte might be open to trading Okafor because he's going to demand a large contract this offseason. I'd expect at the very least $60 million over 6 years. I'm not sure he's really worth $10 mil per year but because he plays center someone will give him at least that much.
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Post#15 » by jab » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:36 pm

Okafor left an offer of 6years/$65 million on the table already.
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Post#16 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:49 pm

jab wrote:Okafor left an offer of 6years/$65 million on the table already.


Which is why I could possibly see Charlotte being open to the idea of trading him.

He's given them 13.6 PPG and 11.1 RPG with 1.8 BPG which is pretty good for a starting center.

But he's not really a guy you feed in the post to get a score when you need one, he's a slightly better offensive Ben Wallace without as much impact on team defense.

Nazr has given them 10 and 8 in just 25 MPG at MLE money.
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Post#17 » by jab » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:51 pm

Yep

I won't bother to go into his health 'issues' either.
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Post#18 » by theBigLip » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:40 pm

As much as I agree with the "If it ain't broke..." theory, this would be a very good trade for the Pistons. And with Jordan starting to take on Isiah like GM qualities, you never know...
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Post#19 » by Kyrama » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:18 pm

Done. We may as well include some more crack for MJ while we're at it.

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