How would you handle the PG situation if you were the GM?

[RaptorsNut]

I trade them both now, so we can have Martin starting. He has proven he's a reliable PG who doesn't turn the ball over and he plays solid defense. I believe he's the future for the raps at the point guard position. He's got toughness and experience, which is what this team desperatly needs. Also by trading both Jose and TJ we can get two good players in return if not one great one, if it's a 3 way deal.

If Martin doesn't work out at point guard I believe we put the ball in Rasho's hands. With his height he'll be able to see over any point guard in the league. I think he has under appreciated quickness.

The added bonus of these deals, is that we will drop out of the playoff race and hopefully get lucky and get a good pick in the draft. I've been feeling out of place lately with the Raptors playing winning basketball anyway. Normally this is the time of year I start looking at mock drafts and picture who I want on the Raptors. Maybe we could get this OJ Mayo fella or that other point guard that's suppose to be good. That's plan C, if the Martin or Rasho plan doesn't pan out.

So there you have it, thats what I'd do if I was the BC.

[davkad]

I trade them both now, so we can have Martin starting. He has proven he's a reliable PG who doesn't turn the ball over and he plays solid defense. I believe he's the future for the raps at the point guard position. He's got toughness and experience, which is what this team desperatly needs. Also by trading both Jose and TJ we can get two good players in return if not one great one, if it's a 3 way deal.

I agree that Martin would be the perfect PG for this team moving foward, but the fact is he's like JKidd - in the twilight of an illustrious career, and who knows how many more years you can have him running the show? Of course, the same thing applies to TJ (won't be around for long to run the show), so either way i think we should hedge our bets and bring in Ukic to be groomed under JC or Murray.

Another point i want to raise - do not get your hopes up about Ukic. Even if he comes over, he is no sure thing to play minutes or succeed in America. He doesn't have good chemistry with the team due to our largely Serbian leanings, and apparently has some ethnic beefs with Rasho that were exacerbated this summer at the 2008 european championship. I would be prepared to give up on the Ukic project by the 3rd year - if he doesn't "turn the corner" (no pun intended) like Calderon has, then he probly wont' pan out as an NBA point guard.

If i was GM i would also, in all seriousness, pay to bring over Papaloukas (he could back up Calderon today). He would be a Garbo or AP type signing - getting a guy in his absolute prime (or maybe a little past), to a short few year contract, and a guy who is absoutely under the radar in the NBA - those sort of contracts have great trade value and give you a lot of flexibility as far as pieces to land a big fish.

[Hank_Scorpio]

Its impossible to say right now - not until we see what Ford brings to the table.

But lets assume he comes back strong.

If he finishes real strong, I think you probably have to move one of them - Ford straight up or Jose as a S&T. At this point, I feel Calderon has probably played himself into a salary level that makes it impractical to keep both.

So lets say Ford finishes strong enough that the Raps (and other teams) could have confidence that he is back to form. If that happens, then either player is marketable and could bring back a solid A or B list shooting guard.

My approach (again, assuming Ford shows he is back to pre-injury form) would be to put both names out there and see what comes back. My guess is that Calderon would probably have more value and so would be the more likely one to be traded.

Of course, that all depends on what happens in the playoffs. If the Raps wind up in the EC Finals behind strong numbers from Calderon, I might be more eager to unload Ford - who I imagine would still have strong value, though perhaps not quite so much.

[TrashTalk]

resign calderon, and hope he continues to develop his shot THUS making him a spot up 2.

I would start Jose at the point based on stability. TJ is arguably is one of the fastest players in the league and would be a perfect fit as 6th man.

He would be a good 6th man, but you don't pay a 6th man what ford gets paid. You are paying starting pg money to a backup, it doesnt really make sense.

[endo]

First of all I'd resign Calderon in the summer. And I'd pay big bucks for him. 5 year $50 million.


Then I'd make a three way trade with Cleveland and Philedelphia.

Toronto recieves:
Anderson Varejao, Thaddeus Young, and Eric Snow.

Cleveland recieves:
TJ Ford, Krish Humphries, Joey Graham, and Reggie Evans.

Philedelphia recieves:
Drew Gooden and Cedrick Simmons.


Then I would sign Roko Ukic.



2008-2009 Toronto Raptors

c-Bargnani/Varejao/Nesterovic
pf-Bosh/Garbjosa/Baston
sf-Young/Kapono/Moon
sg-Parker/Delfino/draft pick
pg-Calderon/Ukic/Snow

[metaldaze]

Commit to both, let them compete both play, draft another guard to replace martin should i need to address our other needs we are now set up to do so. If i make any moves with either guy it will be in the summer during free agency if the offer sheet for jose is too high i do a sign and trade bring in you know who from europe or say a Steve blake from portland.

I do not to any contract longer than 3 years why because dwight howard,lebron ,bosh and a pile of our young talent will all be on the market very soon so we will need to address that remembering not to fall in love or overpay anybody.

[metaldaze]

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He would be a good 6th man, but you don't pay a 6th man what ford gets paid. You are paying starting pg money to a backup, it doesnt really make sense.

I think the spurs are just one example of a team with a sixth man who makes a good buck too. I also think when you are a serious contender you have 8 player's who could all start plus strong role player's and guy's who are tough. We are more than just one or two player's away or do you not see the piston's laugh when they play us while they abuse us in the paint . We are a middle of the pack team with some huge holes where would we be in the west!

[Pchu]

Re-sign Jose at all cost unless there is a great sign and trade on the table (I doubt that very much, but just in case). There aren't too many teams with cap room right now, so the Raps could probably offer the same money as TJ Ford.

Now, let's hope TJ can stay healthy and played like he did before the injury. See how much trade value he has left and if he has enough trade value, he could be package with Rasho, Parker or Garbo to get the max player we need. Those 3 guys are on expiring so there should be a market for all three.

Same goes for Jose, if Jose can fetch you that star player on the wing, that you could gotta trade him. I am not sure about his value so far, since half the league doesn't know who he's.


Anyway, you probably start the season with both PGs and Ukic would be the third guard. Ukic can't be worse than DMart, (anyone playing in YMCA is better than DMart) and if he proves he can play backup minutes then you could start thinking trading one of the two.

[The Duke]

Dont let Jose walk..

-I'm not opposed to S+T now (but the suitors mite be lacking)
-Trading 1 during next season, after we can gagde the development of Bargs, and our potential payoffs with our expiring contracts.

[The Ballboy]

Its impossible to say right now - not until we see what Ford brings to the table.

But lets assume he comes back strong.

If he finishes real strong, I think you probably have to move one of them - Ford straight up or Jose as a S&T. At this point, I feel Calderon has probably played himself into a salary level that makes it impractical to keep both.

So lets say Ford finishes strong enough that the Raps (and other teams) could have confidence that he is back to form. If that happens, then either player is marketable and could bring back a solid A or B list shooting guard.

My approach (again, assuming Ford shows he is back to pre-injury form) would be to put both names out there and see what comes back. My guess is that Calderon would probably have more value and so would be the more likely one to be traded.

Of course, that all depends on what happens in the playoffs. If the Raps wind up in the EC Finals behind strong numbers from Calderon, I might be more eager to unload Ford - who I imagine would still have strong value, though perhaps not quite so much.

and if Ford is cataylist.
It is too early to determine. Calderon's shooting and decision making has been outstanding in the half court set, but I'm not so sure our record would be any different if Ford hadn't got hurt. People keep selling him short (no pun intended) he is much better creator and defender than Calderon. With the way Caldy has been shooting lately I see know reason that he can't split his time between the PG and SG in the future when Ford returns to full health.

[Hank_Scorpio]

First of all I'd resign Calderon in the summer. And I'd pay big bucks for him. 5 year $50 million.


Then I'd make a three way trade with Cleveland and Philedelphia.

Toronto recieves:
Anderson Varejao, Thaddeus Young, and Eric Snow.

Cleveland recieves:
TJ Ford, Krish Humphries, Joey Graham, and Reggie Evans.

Philedelphia recieves:
Drew Gooden and Cedrick Simmons.

More evidence as to why fanboys should not be allowed to propose trades.

Why on earth would Philadelphia give up Thaddeus Young and take back Cedric Simmons?

Makes no sense.

[The_Critic]

Financially commit to both PGs.