Stephen A. Smith- Artest rumor

[OhhBF]

This trade makes no sense for the Kings. Artest is (basically) expiring and I know the Kings are worried about the tax. We would be taking back Green (3 years), Carney (2 years) and Ollie (expiring) + a late 1st for Artest? They aren't bad players, but the Kings are OVERLOADED with wing players (Martin, Salmons, Garcia, Douby, Jones). What kind of playing time would Green/Carney get?

Unless they work it out to send KT back to Philadelphia....

Isn't Bibby supposed to opt out? Jones is expiring and Douby doesn't get any burn.

[Sixerscan]

If Smith really said this, it would have been reported somewhere. Mahorn I'm guessing whoever you heard this from heard it wrong.

[Johnny Broad-Street]

This sounds unlikely and farfetched....


....perfect Stephen A material

[RIPskaterdude]

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Isn't Bibby supposed to opt out? Jones is expiring and Douby doesn't get any burn.

I WISH. But would you opt out with 13 million guaranteed to you? He'll be lucky to make HALF of that in his next contract, IMO.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

This would be similar to the Memphis Grizzlies trade. And so very unlike the Maloof bros.

[sports savant]

even if Artest doesnt opt out after THIS year, we will then have Miller (assuming) & Artest's expring $18mill going into this time next year....

not soo bad to me.

and what is Artest gonna do this year, come in ruin our 23-30 record and fantastic 8th playoff spot??? ohhhhh know!!


there's gotta be more to it. cause if WE idiots can't see the "bad" part of it, its gotta be 2 GOOD 2 be true.
not to mention all of the other opportunties that Dbod already mentioned...

how is this bad???

[Johnny Broad-Street]

Ok...I'll jump...


In what way is it unlike the Maloof brothers?

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Do you remember the Sacramento teams that always advanced to the Western Conference finals? Those had to be one of the more talented teams in recent NBA history.

[Johnny Broad-Street]

How does that speak to this trade? Especially since they've had almost as many years since when they've been mediocre at best

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

The only problem with Sacramento is just like ours: A future PG, no post game and a clog of wing players. Just like us. But their wings are better then ours. Kevin Martin is better then Iggy no contest. Beno and Salmons(can't believe I'm saying this) have some upside. So, they have a better future. Would they do this deal? for the sake of getting their other wings more time, but then they replace Artest with wing/guards Carney and Green. So it's stupid on their part.

[STChaser]

I steer clear of this one. Artest is a SF. We NEED a PF. Is Mo going to play Iguodala at the 2, Artest at the 3, and Thad at the 4? Not sure I like that lineup. I'd rather keep the chemistry intact to be honest and build on what we have. I also don't want to give up on Carney just yet and Green, while a whipping boy for many, is s decent defender.

That being said, I could see Stefanski making this move as he's taken troubled kids in the past. Also, I know SAS is often full of it but he did call the Thaddeus pick.

STChaser

[Johnny Broad-Street]

Didn't say it wasn't stupid. My question was what makes you think they won't do something stupid?

[Mahorn at the 4]

SAS apparently said this on ESPN last night, I read the rumor on the phiily.com and espn boards.

This would be a go for it now deal while ALSO allowing the 6ers more cap space in the offseason when Artest opts out.

I will try to find more info.

[CPops57]

I steer clear of this one. Artest is a SF. We NEED a PF.

I can understand this sentiment, but I think Artest is so talented/productive that you have to take this opportunity and try and make it work.

Worst case scenario, he opts out and leaves you with nothing, but in the process you get rid of Carney/Green's contracts and have a better free agency position this summer anyway.

If they can get him as cheap as this, I think it's a no-brainer for the Sixers.

Kevin Martin is better then Iggy no contest.

Do most people here agree with this?

I think he's definitely a better shooter/scorer, but Iggy also has a few aspects to his game that Martin doesn't do nearly as well.

[Smills91]

Didn't say it wasn't stupid. My question was what makes you think they won't do something stupid?

Two words, Geoff Petrie...his SMART moves FAR outweigh his STUPID moves. His track record speaks for itself.

[SendEm]

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Do most people here agree with this?

I think he's definitely a better shooter/scorer, but Iggy also has a few aspects to his game that Martin doesn't do nearly as well.

I don't REALLY dislike Iggy. I just think that he has fans that overrate him and Billy King was going to overpay him. But with that said Kevin Martin is a much better player than Iggy. Iggy doesn't do anything better than Kevin Martin to where any team in the NBA would chose Iggy over Kevin Martin because of that skill. Iggy averages more assists because he passes up more shots and can't score/finish/shoot as well as Kevin Martin. Kinda like how Brad Miller has averaged more assists than Amare Stoudamire...Kevin Martin is the superior player hands down, and feet too.

[underpressure]

I would take Iguodala any day over Martin. While Martin is the superior scorer Iguodala puts more on the table. Cannot believe that Martin can top him in defense, passing or basketball iq. But that is not the topic of this thread.

[LongLiveHinkie]

SAS apparently said this on ESPN last night, I read the rumor on the phiily.com and espn boards.

This would be a go for it now deal while ALSO allowing the 6ers more cap space in the offseason when Artest opts out.

I will try to find more info.

Nothing more to see here. Move along now.

To this day I have no idea why people go to those boards. They post 1,000 BS rumors a day and all 1,000 are wrong. In the 365,000 rumors posted during the course of a year, about an average of 2 are correct.

[Mahorn at the 4]

Is there any truth to the rumor that the Nuggets are trying to deal for Ron Artest? His high basketball IQ, stifling defense, intensity and physical presence could be a great addition, despite his poor reputation. Would a big lineup of Allen Iverson, Ron Artest, Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Marcus Camby be successful?
-- Chris, Washington

Chris - Sure, they'll consider Artest. It's hard to disregard the availability of one of the NBA's better defenders. But Artest is looking to sign for, likely, a $13 million-per-year contract this summer. Denver doesn't have the cap room for that (keep your eye on Philadelphia). So if the Nuggets deal for Artest, they will have to deal Linas Kleiza, who is playing well and still on his first contract, and maybe the 2008 draft pick, who if Denver kept, would, obviously, also be on his first contract. Something to consider in regards to renting Ron Ron.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_8244063

The quote and link above were also on the philly.com and espn boards.

I can see Ed renting Artest and then signing and trading him in the summer. But, I do not see an extension for Artest happening.

[Grenerd686]

I dont see how our rebuilding team wins in this. We will most likely win more games this year and make the playoffs. This will hurt our chances of getting at top draft prospect. I see this trade as taking a step backward. We win a couple more games this year and next season we are not as strong.

The only way that this benefits our team is if we sign and trade Artest in the offseason for a nice starting PF.

However this whole situation is very unlikely. That is Artest being traded to the sixers.