Stephen A. SMith- 76ers front-runners for Artest?

Mahorn at the 4 · Post #1 » by **Mahorn at the 4** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:13 pm

What is this rumor I am hearing about the 6ers being the front-runners for Artest?

Allegedly Stephen A Smith said last night that we are the front runners for Artest/+ by offering Carney, Green, Utah's pick. To make it work Ollie's deal would likely have to go to Sac.

I see this making us a better team down the stretch as we make a run. Also, Artest will opt out this summer and we could liekly do a sweet sign and trade with a team that really wants him.

Do we risk him behaving himself for a few months? If we add his presence to this team we can make a playoff run and be a tough out for Boston or Detroit. Plus, we get cap room when he opts out.

Can anyone confirm or give more info on this?

PaKwAn · Post #2 » by **PaKwAn** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:19 pm

Other than making a playoff push I have no idea why philly would do this, you are rebuilding with youth and adding artest would just get in the way of Iggy and Youngs playing time. We dont really know what on Petrie's mind so we would just have to wait on what he does.

Bac2Basics · Post #3 » by **Bac2Basics** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:20 pm

If I'm not mistaken, Petrie's already rejected better offers.

I think Stephen A.'s missed the boat on this one.

Smills91 · Post #4 » by **Smills91** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:29 pm

I don't see Petrie taking that package. Green is yet ANOTHER wing player with many years remaining. We don't have any need for him...

Now if he has something up his sleeves to move Bibby(for a PF), I could see Miller/1st for Artest as some sort of starting point.

Post #5 » by **Stanford** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:33 pm

PaKwAn wrote:Other than making a playoff push I have no idea why philly would do this, you are rebuilding with youth and adding artest would just get in the way of Iggy and Youngs playing time. We dont really know what on Petrie's mind so we would just have to wait on what he does.

Green starts at the two, Andre the three and Young the four for us. So either Andre or Artest would move to the 2.

It's SAS though.

cx09 · Post #6 » by **cx09** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:39 pm

Smills91 wrote:I don't see Petrie taking that package. Green is yet ANOTHER wing player with many years remaining. We don't have any need for him...

Now if he has something up his sleeves to move Bibby(for a PF), I could see Miller/1st for Artest as some sort of starting point.

i don't see any reason why sacramento would do the aforementioned deal as proposed either, but the sixers wouldn't do your miller/artest deal. miller is our MVP right now, i think our GM feels he's worth more than artest. i doubt he'd offer miller & a 1st as a return.

ITK9 · Post #7 » by **ITK9** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:40 pm

Smills91 wrote:
Now if he has something up his sleeves to move Bibby(for a PF), I could see Miller/1st for Artest as some sort of starting point.

miller has 10 times the trade value of artest.why?because is a better player, has better character and he can't opt-out this summer.

RIPskaterdude · Post #8 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:42 pm

This trade makes no sense for the Kings. Artest is (basically) expiring and I know the Kings are worried about the tax. We would be taking back Green (3 years), Carney (2 years) and Ollie (expiring) + a late 1st for Artest? They aren't bad players, but the Kings are OVERLOADED with wing players (Martin, Salmons, Garcia, Douby, Jones). What kind of playing time would Green/Carney get?

Unless they work it out to send KT back to Philadelphia.... :dontknow:

Bac2Basics · Post #9 » by **Bac2Basics** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:48 pm

IggyTheKing wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

miller has 10 times the trade value of artest.why?because is a better player, has better character and he can't opt-out this summer.

Anyone who thinks Andre Miller is a better player than Ron Artest hasn't been paying attention.

TunaFish · Post #10 » by **TunaFish** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:31 pm

^They are different players but quality point guards that make a team better are harder to find. Andre Miller is worth a great deal in any trade.

That being said I don't see the Kings doing this trade either because of cap issues. The Kings, like just about every team, are not going to get rid of an expiring in Artest and take back salary. They want an expiring or a young talent on a rookie contract and/or picks. Philly is not going to do that next week.

However, when Artest hits the market after he opts out, Philly will likely make him a decent offer and get him without a trade because they will be under the cap. I think Philly has the best shot at him next season.

Ballings7 · Post #11 » by **Ballings7** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:39 pm

I don't buy it. There's not enough sense in it for both teams.

I love Carney, but it just creates a log-jam again, and Carney himself is back in a similar situation as in Philly this season. This also would effect Douby. Green? Decent player, but why for us?

PG: Bibby/Beno/Douby/Ollie
SG: Kevin/Salmons/Garcia/Green/Douby
SF: Salmons/Garcia/Carney/Jones

*shakes head*

Would be a redundant move until we move a couple of the 2nd/3rd bench wing-players.

I don't see Artest signing with Philly in the summer with the latest comments he made on his future. Money-wise, the Kings can offer him well above the MLE, too. And in that, there's continuity on and off the court for him, and some above-average relationships on the team he has. But money isn't a high priority. Things could change, but if so, I'd say the Kings would be more favorable for Ron considering the aformentioned factors.

TunaFish · Post #12 » by **TunaFish** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:46 pm

"But money isn't too important of a factor."

You must be joking. It is the factor.

Ballings7 · Post #13 » by **Ballings7** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:51 pm

TunaFish wrote:"But money isn't too important of a factor."

You must be joking. It is the factor.

Well, obviously you don't follow the team, or just recently.

Not by Ron's comments recently, it's not a serious factor or the factor.

Even if it was, I could still definitely see him signing with a small amount of legit playoff teams for the MLE.

Smills91 · Post #14 » by **Smills91** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:52 pm

IggyTheKing wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

miller has 10 times the trade value of artest.why?because is a better player, has better character and he can't opt-out this summer.

If you think Andre Miller is BETTER than Artest I don't what to say to you, also Ron's contract > Andre's contract FOR THE SIXERS purposes, he EXPIRES, the SIXERS are LOOKING for cap space.

TunaFish · Post #15 » by **TunaFish** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:03 pm

Ballings7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Well, obviously you don't follow the team, or just recently.

Not by Ron's last comments it's not a serious factor or the factor.

Even if it was, I could still definitely see him signing with a small amount of legit playoff teams for the MLE.

It doesn't matter what team you follow. If a guy thinks that he has been underpaid in his last contract, like Artest, it is all about the money. Read what Artest's agent has to say about that on the internet. It's obvious he wants a big pay day somewhere and that it will not be in Sacramento.

Ballings7 · Post #16 » by **Ballings7** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:10 pm

Ron's not going to sign with Philly.

underpressure · Post #17 » by **underpressure** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:20 pm

Smills91 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If you think Andre Miller is BETTER than Artest I don't what to say to you, also Ron's contract > Andre's contract FOR THE SIXERS purposes, he EXPIRES, the SIXERS are LOOKING for cap space.

Miller has been the MVP of the Sixes team. It is completely legit to claim that Miller has played a better season so far. As far as talking about the better player, I would give Artest the edge because he is defensively the superior player.

Your proposed deal is completely off the mark. Andre Miller is a LEGIT part of the Sixers future plans. He won't slow down us a player because his game is not build up by speed or athleticism. That means that his age is not a big concern for the Sixers team at all. And it is beyond me, why we should give even up a first rounder if we are in the rebuilding progress.

What had been the other Artest offers? I doubt you will get any better ones because Artest is alleged to opt out of his contract.

Smills91 · Post #18 » by **Smills91** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:22 pm

TunaFish wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It doesn't matter what team you follow. If a guy thinks that he has been underpaid in his last contract, like Artest, it is all about the money. Read what Artest's agent has to say about that on the internet. It's obvious he wants a big pay day somewhere and that it will not be in Sacramento.

What you've posted is factual, UNTIL you got to this part. From which part of your A$$ did you pull this from? The OPPOSITE has been said by Ron, that he loves Sacramento, that he wants to retire here...he's NEVER said that he would NOT re-sign in Sacramento...that's pure FICTION.

Smills91 · Post #19 » by **Smills91** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:23 pm

underpressure wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Miller has been the MVP of the Sixes team. It is completely legit to claim that Miller has played a better season so far. As far as talking about the better player, I would give Artest the edge because he is defensively the superior player.

Your proposed deal is completely off the mark. Andre Miller is a LEGIT part of the Sixers future plans. He won't slow down us a player because his game is not build up by speed or athleticism. That means that his age is not a big concern for the Sixers team at all. And it is beyond me, why we should give even up a first rounder if we are in the rebuilding progress.

What had been the other Artest offers? I doubt you will get any better ones because Artest is alleged to opt out of his contract.

And Artest has been the Kings MVP AND a better player OVERALL. Miller's a good PG, but Artest overall is BETTER.

SacTown Kings · Post #20 » by **SacTown Kings** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:29 pm

Are there really people out there that think A. Miller is better than Artest? What can you say to that except to each their own I guess. Good point guards are rare, DPOY are even more rare.

Not too sure why we would be trading with Philly they don't have anything we want. Would never happen, but it would be hilarious if we traded Kenny back to them.