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Rookies Vs. Sophomores 2/15/08

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Rookies Vs. Sophomores 2/15/08 

Post#1 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:58 pm

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Rookies: 2-6 (Lost 5 Straight)
Sophomores: 6-2 (Won 5 Straight)

Previous Meetings
2007: Sophs 155, Rookies 114 (MVP: David Lee)
2006: Sophs 106, Rookies 96 (MVP: Andre Iguodala)
2005: Sophs 133, Rookies 106 (MVP: Carmelo Anthony)
2004: Sophs 142, Rookies 118 (MVP: Amare Stoudemire)
2003: Sophs 132, Rookies 112 (MVP: Gilbert Arenas)
2002: Rookies 103, Sophs 97 (MVP: Jason Richardson)
2001: Sophs 121, Rookies 113 (MVP: Wally Szczerbiak)
2000: Rookies 92, Sophs 83 (MVP: Elton Brand)

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This rookie class has not lived up to all of the hype it has gotten so far and the Sophomores have something to prove after they got demoralized in this game last year hence...

My Prediction: Sophomores by 15+
MVP Prediction: Brandan Roy
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Post#2 » by Cru Thik » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:11 pm

Neither team looks all that interesting I don't see any possible stars other than KD a bunch of good players that won't ever be that go to championship type guy. Would look better if Oden was healthy and Thad was playing but oh well.
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Post#3 » by SendEm » Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:31 pm

The rookies will get blown out by 20+ points. The sophs have the best guards and that's the only thing that counts...This could even end up being a 50 point blow out.
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Post#4 » by Hewy29 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:43 pm

Cassidy wrote:Neither team looks all that interesting I don't see any possible stars other than KD a bunch of good players that won't ever be that go to championship type guy. Would look better if Oden was healthy and Thad was playing but oh well.


Rudy Gay???
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Post#5 » by theman » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:59 pm

Roy?
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Post#6 » by Youseff » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:12 pm

Cassidy wrote:Neither team looks all that interesting I don't see any possible stars other than KD a bunch of good players that won't ever be that go to championship type guy. Would look better if Oden was healthy and Thad was playing but oh well.


????

Yi, Horford, Moon, Sean Williams, Roy, Aldridge, Bargnani, Gay?
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Post#7 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:18 pm

DID YOU JUST NAME JAMARIO MOON AN STAR? SEAN WILLIAMS? AL HORFORD? These are good NBA players, not stars. The definition of a star is the likes of Iverson/Nash/B-Diddy. Players who CAN take over games. Players who had the potential to take over games. The likes of Gay, Aldridge, Roy, Bargnani, THEY have what it takes. Baut Jamario **** moon? Come on now. You sound like Agent Zer0.
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Post#8 » by Grenerd686 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:21 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote: The likes of Gay, Aldridge, Roy, Bargnani, THEY have what it takes.


I dont see Aldridge or Bargnani as having the skills or the mind set to become a star in this league. They will be good starters but no stars. You could make a case for Gay he is ok but if he played a good team he would not be viewed as the next player to carry that team. I see Gay and Roy as the Joe Johnson type player where they are good players on poor teams. They probally wont pan out into the Iverson, Nash, B. Diddy type star.
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Post#9 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:35 pm

Brandon Roy is the reason the Blazers had that BLAZING(no pun intended) streak in Janurary. He has been sick lately.
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Post#10 » by Youseff » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:37 pm

Grenerd686 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I dont see Aldridge or Bargnani as having the skills or the mind set to become a star in this league. They will be good starters but no stars. You could make a case for Gay he is ok but if he played a good team he would not be viewed as the next player to carry that team. I see Gay and Roy as the Joe Johnson type player where they are good players on poor teams. They probally wont pan out into the Iverson, Nash, B. Diddy type star.


You are aware how Portland has played for most of this year?
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Post#11 » by philbe311 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:39 pm

Does anyone actually watch this??? This is a painful game to watch regardless of who is playing...
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Post#12 » by Cru Thik » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:56 pm

Like I said they are nice players but none of them are going to be stars that take teams to a NBA championship. Even KD will be out of the league before Seattle is good enough to contend in the West. Roy is a nice player but not the type of player who is going to carry a team to a championship or even a Western Conference Finals. The only way Roy gets even close is if Oden becomes a dominant big in the NBA.
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Post#13 » by Stanford » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:19 pm

theman wrote:Roy?


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Post#14 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:35 am

I said that the Sophs would win by 20+
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Post#15 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:46 am

Daniel Gibson was ON FIRE. Kevin Durant did all he could, but the rookies sucked.

Sendem: JAMARIO FREAKING MOON. :(. Don't you dare say he's better then our 19 PPG Iggy.
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Post#16 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:38 pm

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Daniel Gibson was ON FIRE. Kevin Durant did all he could, but the rookies sucked.

Sendem: JAMARIO FREAKING MOON. :(. Don't you dare say he's better then our 19 PPG Iggy.


I NEVER said that Moon was better. What I did say is that the difference in skills that both bring to a winning team with players BETTER than themselves is not a large enough difference to warrant paying Iggy $11.5+ million per season while guys like Jamario Moon and Roger Mason Jr.are playing for around the league minimum. I'd much rather have Moon or Mason over Iggy if it mean saving the $10.5+ million for a player that I actually believe in like a Josh Howard who averages 22 points alongside Dirk while Iggy would average 15 next to Dirk but the Iggy fans would just make excuses for Iggy like "He doesn't get many plays called for him.."
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Post#17 » by Sixerscan » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:41 pm

Moon and Mason won't be making the minimum next year.

Actually Mason probably will be close because he's not very good, maybe a little less than Willie Green money.
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Post#18 » by SendEm » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:49 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Moon and Mason won't be making the minimum next year.

Actually Mason probably will be because he's not very good.


No doubt about that. BUT when I look at the kind of talent that has been signed off of the street the last couple of years like Jose Calderon, Roger Mason Jr., Kareem Rush, Jamario Moon, it makes me look at Iggy turning down $11.5 million per season as a sign. He never was worth that much, just prepayment for his "potential." Iggy turning down $11.5 million was like playing Russian Roulette and pulling the trigger on an empty chamber. Let's not pull that trigger again Stephanski :pray:
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Post#19 » by Sixerscan » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:54 pm

Yeah, there's those guys (Besides Kareem Rush who's terrible) but there's also 50 times as many people that don't do anything and get cut. You can't just sign a bunch of minimum guys and hope some of the **** you threw at the wall sticks.
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Post#20 » by freshie2 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:56 pm

Every first contract is a shot in the dark...giving 23/24 year old players (other than players like Lebron or Howard) big pay days is risky.

The Iguodala/Roy comparison is a lot closer than Mason/Rush/Moon are to Iguodala...not even close.

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