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Official Trade Thread (update pg. 12 Haslem/Seattle)

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Post#101 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:57 pm

If this trade happens..Thank me for saying this

This is trade not going to happen!
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Post#102 » by LBPTarHeel27 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:03 pm

Dream Scenario:

Orlando Gets
Udonis Haslem

Miami Gets
Carlos Arroyo
JJ Redick
___

Orlando Gets
Mike Miller

Memphis Gets
Keith Bogans
Pat Garrity
James Augustine
Rights to Fran Vazquez
2008 First Round Pick
___

First Unit:
PG Nelson
SG Miller
SF Lewis
PF Haslem
C Howard

Second Unit:
PG Dooling
SG Evans
SF Hedo
PF Lewis
C Howard

Third Unit:
PG Nelson
SG Miller
SF Hedo
PF Haslem
C Foyle

Each unit would have a great mix of everything.
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Post#103 » by Cammo101 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:16 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:Dream Scenario:

Orlando Gets
Udonis Haslem

Miami Gets
Carlos Arroyo
JJ Redick
___

Orlando Gets
Mike Miller

Memphis Gets
Keith Bogans
Pat Garrity
James Augustine
Rights to Fran Vazquez
2008 First Round Pick
___

First Unit:
PG Nelson
SG Miller
SF Lewis
PF Haslem
C Howard

Second Unit:
PG Dooling
SG Evans
SF Hedo
PF Lewis
C Howard

Third Unit:
PG Nelson
SG Miller
SF Hedo
PF Haslem
C Foyle

Each unit would have a great mix of everything.


I like both deals, but I wouldn't take Hedo out of the starting lineup. I'd bring Haslem off the bench and play him quasi-starter minutes.

Nelson/Dooling
Miller/Evans
Hedo/Cook (not that he would play much if Haslem shows)
Shard/Haslem
Dwight/Foyle
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Post#104 » by LBPTarHeel27 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:35 pm

I dunno...I like the idea of having the scoring coming off the bench rather than the defense. Start Hedo at 2 and bring Miller off the bench if it is better that way....but I think we should start a tradional lineup.
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Post#105 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:43 pm

lets not get carried away..the way i think about it is..if we get too excited we're just gonna get smashed in the face
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Post#106 » by Cammo101 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:56 pm

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:I dunno...I like the idea of having the scoring coming off the bench rather than the defense. Start Hedo at 2 and bring Miller off the bench if it is better that way....but I think we should start a tradional lineup.


There is nothing traditional about a 6'10'' SG. I just don't think it would be wise to tinker with Hedo right now. There is no telling what sending him to the bench would do. Him not knowing his role while Hill was around was one of the main reasons he was inconsistant IMO.
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Post#107 » by Boricuaenlaluna » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:42 pm

Just getting some fun with the trade checker; Trade ID #4513022........... how would you guys like this?

Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Brian Cook
J.J. Redick
James Augustine


for

Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem
Chris Quinn
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Post#108 » by oakfanintheeast » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:52 pm

teams are getting mike bibby and pau gasol for expirings and we're going to get... (gasp) udonis haslem? hahhahahaha.
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Post#109 » by bucsmagicfan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:36 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:teams are getting mike bibby and pau gasol for expirings and we're going to get... (gasp) udonis haslem? hahhahahaha.


What are you talking about? Udonis is exactly what this team needs.
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Post#110 » by Shishnizzle » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:40 am

Oak your are loosing it man. For a while I tried to take you seriously but now I realize you don't have clue.
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Post#111 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:59 am

Not only that, but we don't have a quality young player like Crittenton or Shelden. Besides, Haslem is a better fit here than Bibby.
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Post#112 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:08 am

Boricuaenlaluna wrote:Just getting some fun with the trade checker; Trade ID #4513022........... how would you guys like this?

Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Brian Cook
J.J. Redick
James Augustine


for

Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem
Chris Quinn


NO :wavefinger:
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Post#113 » by Idunkonyou2 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:24 am

I'm sure whoever Otis is targeting, it is probably a young PF who can grow with the team. Personally I would rather see Bogans, Garrity, Arroyo and a future pick traded away for Haslem or Wilcox. Either one of those guys would be the perfect fit and since they are young, wouldn't be a quick fix either since they are both starting material and could grow with the team.

Sign Dooling and Evans to contract extentions in the offseason, sign Williams to the vets minimum as a good vet PG backup, use the MLE on a SG and call it a day.

2008-2009 Magic

PG Nelson, Dooling, Williams
SG MLE player, Evans, Reddick
SF Lewis, Hedo, (1st round pick)
PF Haslem or Wilcox, Cook, Fran
C Howard, Battie, Foyle

My personal preference by the way would be Wilcox. He is 2 years younger than Haslem and he is also bigger than Haslem.

Oh and as far as the trade checker goes it could be one or the other.

Garrity or Arroyo, Bogans and a future 1st round pick for Haslem or Wilcox.
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Post#114 » by theTHIEF » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:28 pm

bucsmagicfan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Thousands? I respectfully disagree. Either way, common sense says a better product (championship caliber team) will actually put more bodies in seats than Carlos Arroyo currently does. Common sense tells us that.


THOUSANDS


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Post#115 » by CourtsideTV » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:47 pm

thEthIEf wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



THOUSANDS


you SEVERELY underestimate the Latino community my friend....


do you honestly think they'd stop coming to games completely if we traded him?

i use to be a huge tmac fan but did i stop going to games?

winning would have a huge impact on attendance...say we rocked the ORENA again with wins...people would come no matter what player was on the team..just look at the blazers..
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Post#116 » by Dome » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:56 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Not only that, but we don't have a quality young player like Crittenton or Shelden. Besides, Haslem is a better fit here than Bibby.


*cough* JJ *cough*
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Post#117 » by craig01 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:05 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Not only that, but we don't have a quality young player like Crittenton or Shelden. Besides, Haslem is a better fit here than Bibby.


Bibby wouldn't have solved much (except a bit more consistent pg play), while Haslem provides an answer to a glaring weakness.
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Post#118 » by DiplomaticMagic » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:39 pm

is oak even a magic fan?

Haslem here would be perfect
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Post#119 » by miamiballer » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:06 pm

how about

haslem, smush, banks for arroyo, garrity, dooling
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Post#120 » by Cammo101 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:22 pm

miamiballer wrote:how about

haslem, smush, banks for arroyo, garrity, dooling


Arroyo, Garrity, Augustine = expirings for trade

Dooling, Evans = expirings for keep

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