Official Bibby to Atlanta Hawks for the Championship!!1!

MagicFan32 · Post #61 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:18 pm

Some of you are total kneejerks, the Hawks are not better than us and Bibby is not the same guy who was helping lead the Kings deep into the playoffs.

But yes they did get him for nothing...Otis won't do anything I predict.

drsd · Post #62 » by **drsd** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:22 pm

damo[23] wrote:Everyone got better than the Magic last season apparently, strange how we're sat at 3rd in the East.

I just love how every single trade that happens you have the exact same posters saying "OMG OTIS WE SHOULD HAVE TRADEDAEDASDAS!!"EWQ"

If it were up to them, our roster would change 15 man deep about 3 or 4 times a year; including some scrub FA's that constantly get waived from their teams.

Yes we get it, you want to trade for the sake of trading.

The Wizards and Heat are worse because of injuries. The Baby-cats are not at all improved. And the Hawks are a touch better. On odds, the South East is better in the mid-pack over last year, and are similar at the top with Orlando taking the rope from Miami. But the Heat now join the Baby-cats i the toilet level of this division.

The South East is worse this year over last.

kookie_819 · Post #63 » by **kookie_819** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:16 am

orl1724 wrote:Who do you guys think is a better team though?

IMO we have better individual players but they have a better starting 5. Also they are very young and only gonna get better, unless we can get some talented players NOW they are going to be better (if they arent already).

Dwight>Horford
Rashard<Smith (Lewis is a better player IMO but Smith plays PF better)
Hedo>Williams (In a year or two Williams will be better, shaping into great scorer
Evans<JJ
Nelson<Bibby

2-3 Them

on paper...

besides, it's more like this:

Dwight>>>>Horford
Rashard=<Smith
Hedo>>Williams
Evans<<JJ
Nelson=<Bibby

more importantly:

SVG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Woodson

Dwightmare · Post #64 » by **Dwightmare** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:25 am

Does this mean that Atlanta is less likely to resign Childress this summer?

Just Plain Mark · Post #65 » by **Just Plain Mark** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:35 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

so you think nelson is better than bibby? i dont think thats why i think orlando should have gotten him.

the bottom line is, orlando needs to improve their team, everyone else is.

Bibby being better than Nelson is only one consideration for a team making a trade. Chemistry, contract, and pieces given up all come in to play.

I agree with you that the Magic need to make a move, but I think it should be for a SG or back up PF.

Bibby isn't going to solve any backcourt's defensive woes and he's not going to help with rebounding and post defense, and he's not necessarily even healthy, so in my opinion, Otis made the right move.

CourtsideTV · Post #66 » by **CourtsideTV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:52 am

this is good bc i got bibby on my fantasy team:

DMannOC · Post #67 » by **DMannOC** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:03 am

Orlando Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Brad Miller
Ron Artest

Outgoing Players
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Brian Cook
J.J. Redick
James Augustine
Fran Vazquez

Incoming Players
Hedo Turkoglu
Carlos Arroyo
Pat Garrity
Brian Cook
J.J. Redick
James Augustine
Fran Vazquez

Outgoing Players
Brad Miller
Ron Artest

Maybe throw in a first and second round pick and they might bite?

Lineup:
Howard/Foyle
Miller/Lewis
Lewis/Evans
Artest/Dooling/Evans
Nelson/Dooling

FTW

EDIT: maybe have them throw in another point gaurd to be our 3rd string. I.E. lue or carter or udrich

CourtsideTV · Post #68 » by **CourtsideTV** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:08 am

^ worst trade i've ever seen in my life..you dont trade hedo for artest...and you dont trade cook for brad miller.

DMannOC · Post #69 » by **DMannOC** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:18 am

hedo for artest i could understand.... but are you trying to compare brian cook to brad miller?

mhectorgato · Post #70 » by **mhectorgato** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:27 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:haven't you guys realize? its the "everyone is getting better than the magic right".

Isn't this what many were saying about the Magic during the off-season?

Look at us now, 12 games over .500 and 3rd in the east with a very good chance of winning the SE.

LetItRain · Post #71 » by **LetItRain** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:43 pm

dwightmeer wrote:Does this mean that Atlanta is less likely to resign Childress this summer?

From what I've read, yes

oakfanintheeast · Post #72 » by **oakfanintheeast** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:50 pm

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Isn't this what many were saying about the Magic during the off-season?

Look at us now, 12 games over .500 and 3rd in the east with a very good chance of winning the SE.

thats great, bc it doesnt mean anything come playoffs when everyone else is getting better.

realfung · Post #73 » by **realfung** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:22 pm

Bibby is not a true PG, I doubt his effectiveness.

LetItRain · Post #74 » by **LetItRain** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:52 pm

realfung wrote:Bibby is not a true PG, I doubt his effectiveness.

He's still a huge upgrade over Lue, Anthony Johnson, Claxton, and Law.

Post #75 » by **Bensational** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:57 am

i think that the Hawks will come out laughing from this deal. Bibby is far from done, he just needs the right team around him again and he'll be a that weapon in the playoffs that everyone is envious of.

magictreat · Post #76 » by **magictreat** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:30 am

A bunch of teams are trying to get better before the trade deadline, Otis is seating tight, Thank You Otis....

mhectorgato · Post #77 » by **mhectorgato** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:56 am

oakfanintheeast wrote:thats great, bc it doesnt mean anything come playoffs when everyone else is getting better.

Everyone is trying to catch up to us.

A move, if it's there and fits and doesn't give up to much, is fine. But simply because everyone is making a move is silly.

Otis made a move earlier in the season to help sure up the SG and add to the bench. That worked out pretty good .. no?

Other East teams are only making moves now.

mhectorgato · Post #78 » by **mhectorgato** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:57 am

magictreat wrote:A bunch of teams are trying to get better before the trade deadline, Otis is seating tight, Thank You Otis....

Yes. Everyone else is making moves, so should we right? Who cares if it's a good move or not, we should just make a move because everyone else is. Right?

Post #79 » by **Bensational** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:28 am

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yes. Everyone else is making moves, so should we right? Who cares if it's a good move or not, we should just make a move because everyone else is. Right?

no, but it'd be nice to know that if Pau Gasol is going for expirings and crappy draft picks that we'd have been in the mix.

it'd be nice to land a Devin Harris/Jason Kidd/Mike Bibby/Ron Artest if all it's costing is expirings. but not if we have to gut our team and ruin our playoff run this year for it.

i'd just like to hope that with all the commotion a few other teams begin to panic and hope to offload players for cap space + draft picks + young talent and that we can get in the mix and steal some talent.

magictreat · Post #80 » by **magictreat** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:31 am

mhectorgato wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yes. Everyone else is making moves, so should we right? Who cares if it's a good move or not, we should just make a move because everyone else is. Right?

No, we shouldnt, just to make a move, but we should IMPROVE the roster, everybody here, you included know this roster, have more holes than a piece of swiss cheese, just my opinion....