Garnett vs Dirk - Game 7 of the NBA Finals? - Who you got?

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Garnett vs Dirk - Game 7 of the NBA Finals? - Who do you take?

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Post#1 » by JordansBulls » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:05 pm

Let's say it was Game 7 of the NBA Finals and both of these players were on opposite teams and you had to decide on which player would come thru for you in this game and take home the title, who you do you take?

NOTE: Both players teams are roughly equal as far as talent. Either player has homecourt advantage.

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Post#2 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:07 pm

I'll take Garnett, any player is capable of being stopped, but I think if the defense devised a scheme that effectively limits the guy, Garnett is the better passer, and is still a game changing rebounder and defender, and is one of the best at getting his team and the crowd into the game.

Taking the last shot, I'd let Dirk take it.... he's flat out a better shooter. I'd probably take Garnett from the line though, I think if Dirk has too much time to think he can hurt himself.
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Post#3 » by WesWesley » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:08 pm

Garnett because he's better than Dirk.

LEt's just say if it was game 7, I would want a player who was determined to take it to the rack. Not that Dirk can't, (see San Antonio series), but I think Garnett is better at asserting himself in the paint.
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Post#4 » by EiRON » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:34 pm

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Post#5 » by T-Spot » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:37 pm

Garnett because he inspires those around him to play better. He is a warrior and will never give up until the end and will pounce if he smells blood.

Unlike Dirk who is not a terribly imposing guy who is not vocal and does not inspire those around him to play better. Does not handle pressure, and will call 9/11 if he smells blood.
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Post#6 » by JordansBulls » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:37 pm

3 people have said Garnett, but the 3 votes thus far are for Dirk.

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Post#7 » by MagicFan3 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:38 pm

I'll take the dominant post player who can get to the basket simply off of his strength please...
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Post#8 » by Wade2k6 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:01 am

I'll sure as hell take KG. Maybe it's an easy decision b/c of how Dirk let his team down in the finals.
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Post#9 » by Griever24 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:08 am

KG No contest ... this guy will bring it at both ends .. Dirk i love the guy but he's soft and rely's way to much on the jumper
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Post#10 » by Captain_Obvious » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:18 am

JordansBulls wrote:3 people have said Garnett, but the 3 votes thus far are for Dirk.

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Why would anyone argue with Wolves, Boston fans, people with an agenda, whether vs Germany or the Mavs. You would get outnumbered.

I would take Dirk. Dirk has become a better Passer and can go inside, is on par reboundwise (defense), defense KG is better. Gameplan is to turn KG into a jumpshooter and win the game.

And Dirk has proven way more in the playoffs, i wont discuss that soft crap. Lol, now that KG's stats are down because of his better team noone bothers anymore to post stats, huh?

But again, i would vote for Dirk, i dont care what realgm thinks about it anymore.
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Post#11 » by Cevap » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:55 am

Dirk. KG as i always say is overrated. Can't remember one dominating performance from him except the Game 7 vs. the Kings in 04. Dirk was a beast against SA in Game 7 a couple years back and took them to finals. SA>Sac by a mile.

Besides, the only time they've met in the playoffs is when Dallas crushed Minnesotta 3-0 with Dirk posting a 39-17 compared to KG's 22-17 in the elimination game

Dirk's game 7 performances: 18 and 4 in 2001 (game 5) vs. Jazz, 31-11 vs. Blazers and 21-12 vs. Kings in 2003, 14 and 14 (won by 30) in 2005 vs. Rockets, 37 and 15 in 2006 vs. Spurs


Dirk is a beast in game 7s.

I'd take KG though if i need a co-signer for a loan
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Post#12 » by Patterns » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:57 am

Dirk because if he explodes, he's capable of carrying the team.
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Post#13 » by killacalijatt » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:20 am

KG-Passionate PLayer can be more effective on or off the court.
Dirk-if hes on hes on but when hes off hes a whimp when hes being shut down, just crawls into a cave.

Give the Emotional and Leader PLayer in KG.
Makes everybody around him better.
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Post#14 » by Cevap » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:23 am

killacalijatt wrote:KG-Passionate PLayer can be more effective on or off the court.
Dirk-if hes on hes on but when hes off hes a whimp when hes being shut down, just crawls into a cave.

Give the Emotional and Leader PLayer in KG.
Makes everybody around him better.



when has KG made everybody around him better? i've honestly have never heard a teammate of his being sad for being traded from the twolves while KG was there nor can't i remember someone having a career year there.


numbers don't lie, Dirk is a beast in game 7s, KG barely gets to game 4s let alone game 7s in his career.
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Post#15 » by Teddy KGB » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:54 am

killacalijatt wrote:KG-Passionate PLayer can be more effective on or off the court.
Dirk-if hes on hes on but when hes off hes a whimp when hes being shut down, just crawls into a cave.

Give the Emotional and Leader PLayer in KG.
Makes everybody around him better.


Because off the court issues are sooo relevant... :roll:

and you can't just dismiss Dirk as if he's on he's on. More like "if he's on he can single-handedly demolish the defending champions"

And KG's led Minnesota to oh so much being all emotional and the like.

When it comes down to it, you need your franchise player to absolutely explode and carry the team in game 7s. Dirk has shown he can do that. Garnett hasn't [yet].


I take Garnett over Dirk for the regular season, but for the playoffs gimme Dirk. No offense to Garnett tho, love that guy.
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Post#16 » by killacalijatt » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:04 am

Cevap wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




when has KG made everybody around him better? i've honestly have never heard a teammate of his being sad for being traded from the twolves while KG was there nor can't i remember someone having a career year there.


numbers don't lie, Dirk is a beast in game 7s, KG barely gets to game 4s let alone game 7s in his career.


WHo has KG ever played with SpreeWell and Cassel and Strawberry are the only 3 names that come to mind.
While Dirk has all the talent in the world around him. Terry Harris Howard STack.
You think a scrub like Tom Gugliotta would average 20ppg without KG. He couldnt cuzz the only 2 seasons he did were with Minny.
And in the 1998-1999 season KG managed to get them to the playoffs not by himself but with his leadership making his teammates better.

KG is a leader while Dirk is not. Dirk had all the talent in the world next to him yet lost to GS in the first round and stuck his head in his ass and took it like a little whimp.
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Post#17 » by killacalijatt » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:12 am

ss_maverick wrote: More like "if he's on he can single-handedly demolish the defending champions

but when hes being shut down what is he good for Nothing
so more like when hes off hes worthless

When it comes down to it, you need your franchise player to absolutely explode and carry the team


He couldnt do that against GS when he was being shut down what was he good for ? Nothing When all the critizem was being dealt to him he couldnt handle it he was even missing free throws,the tremendous free throw shooter he is.
Did he make plays?NO DId he play defence?NO
Dirk cant Carry a team.
When It comes down to it you need your franchise player to be great in every aspect.

Dirk is good but Id take KG thats my opinion you have yours.
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Post#18 » by Cevap » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:07 am

gugliotta averaged 17 points without KG and the only noticable difference between that season in washington and with KG is that his FT% went up from 68 to 80.

everything else is comparable
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Post#19 » by Teddy KGB » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:08 am

killacalijatt wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



WHo has KG ever played with SpreeWell and Cassel and Strawberry are the only 3 names that come to mind.
While Dirk has all the talent in the world around him. Terry Harris Howard STack.
You think a scrub like Tom Gugliotta would average 20ppg without KG. He couldnt cuzz the only 2 seasons he did were with Minny.
And in the 1998-1999 season KG managed to get them to the playoffs not by himself but with his leadership making his teammates better.

KG is a leader while Dirk is not. Dirk had all the talent in the world next to him yet lost to GS in the first round and stuck his head in his ass and took it like a little whimp.


Sprewell, Cassell and Marbury are all all stars. Dirk has played with exactly one since Nash's departure and that's the one time all star Josh Howard. Gugliotta was a one time all star, just like howard. But I'll give you that Howard is a lot better and Googs' impact is more similar to Terry's except Googs was better. Calling Gugliotta a scrub is like me calling Stephen Jackson a scrub. Completely false.

So Terry < Gugliotta
Sprewell = Howard
Harris <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cassell
Stack is nothing great.

So where is all this excess talent? Quite simply, Dirk led a similar supporting cast to the NBA Finals, something Garnett hasn't done [yet]. And when Garnett gets his team to the playoffs it's a display of his leadership but when Dirk does it isn't? Please explain why this is so. Dirk isn't as emotional as Garnett, but neither is Duncan. Would you call Garnett a better leader than Duncan?

All the talent in the world = 1 fringe all star and solid depth? Dirk definitely did not have "all the talent in the world." Sure, we were a very cohesive unit last year but i don't see why Dirk shouldn't get credit for that, being the leader of the team and all.
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Post#20 » by Teddy KGB » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:13 am

killacalijatt wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He couldnt do that against GS when he was being shut down what was he good for ? Nothing When all the critizem was being dealt to him he couldnt handle it he was even missing free throws,the tremendous free throw shooter he is.
Did he make plays?NO DId he play defence?NO
Dirk cant Carry a team.
When It comes down to it you need your franchise player to be great in every aspect.

Dirk is good but Id take KG thats my opinion you have yours.


Well Garnett couldn't get the TWolves to the playoffs. That makes them pretty even in my eyes. And Garnett was also constantly criticized for his team not making the playoffs but he didn't will them to a playoff berth either. So what's worse, screwing up in the playoffs or just not making the playoffs?

Don't give me all this **** about Dirk not being able to handle the pressure or carry a team. Go ask Tim Duncan about how well Dirk handles pressure. Better yet, ask Manu Ginobili. Dirk can absolutely handle the pressure, it's the rest of the Mavs that needed to step up against GSW and none of them other than JHo did.
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