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Post#41 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:43 pm

Dome, you know I'm referring to the actual shot. It wasn't a dunk but the judges gave it a high score in a dunk contest. The dunk contest has been going on for many years now. Never before has a shot taken from such a distance where the shooter couldn't even reach the rim been considered a dunk. The fact is Howard muffed the dunk but got a great score anyway.
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Post#42 » by HeyIt'sMe » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:24 pm

I'm not sure he muffed it. He probably had done it from that distance before and knew he couldn't reach the rim. I think the whole point on that dunk was to show up his vertical and how high he could jump straight up in the air. If you watch the replay, he slowed down at the marker, and jumped straight up with both feet, which slowed him down drastically. I'm sure he got a running start and just did a standard running dunk, he could have, but that wasn't his intention. He wanted to show how high he could get, hence the cape.

It's all subjective in the end my friend. Some think it's a dunk, some don't. It is what it is.
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Post#43 » by candy for lunch » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:29 pm

sheesh, what a stupid thing to complain about
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Post#44 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:32 pm

Here is Howard practicing the superman dunk. He actually dunked it in practice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIz7sYjp1Sc
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Post#45 » by HeyIt'sMe » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:35 pm

d-train wrote:Here is Howard practicing the superman dunk. He actually dunked it in practice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIz7sYjp1Sc


I didn't see it on there.
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Post#46 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:49 pm

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I didn't see it on there.

Go to 1:31, it's actually a nice dunk when he dunks it.
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Post#47 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:00 pm

At 1:32 you see the actual takeoff from the spot he puts the tape. The difference is in the dunk contest he muffed the dunk but got a perfect score for a muffed dunk.
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Post#48 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:16 pm

Here is the Reignman successfully doing the dunk in a game at 1:01. Have a look if you want to see a real dunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0986PwE0LyM
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Post#49 » by Dome » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:32 pm

d-train wrote:At 1:32 you see the actual takeoff from the spot he puts the tape. The difference is in the dunk contest he muffed the dunk but got a perfect score for a muffed dunk.


That's an entirely different dunk. The dunk in the vid you're pointing out he's taking off from the dribble, while the superman dunk from the dunk contest he's getting an elley oop pass from Jameer Nelson.
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Post#50 » by Dome » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:35 pm

d-train wrote:Here is the Reignman successfully doing the dunk in a game at 1:01. Have a look if you want to see a real dunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0986PwE0LyM


Again an entirely different dunk though, since the superman dunk Dwight did in the dunk contest was an elley oop coming from Jameer Nelson (who was standing out of bounds).
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Post#51 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:37 pm

The significant difference to me is until last night the dunk in the dunk contest would have never been considered a dunk.
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Post#52 » by Pattycakes » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:27 pm

Who gives a rats ass none of us can do that regardless
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Post#53 » by ss1986v2 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:33 pm

d-train wrote:The significant difference to me is until last night the dunk in the dunk contest would have never been considered a dunk.

false.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ALAf186lLA

still would have been considered a dunk (whether or not you believe the consideration to be correct is another story, and a matter of opinion).
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Post#54 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:18 pm

ss1986v2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


false.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ALAf186lLA

still would have been considered a dunk (whether or not you believe the consideration to be correct is another story, and a matter of opinion).

So, the argument in favor is it was a spectacular dunk attempt that went in therefore it was a dunk. The same principle as a 3/4 court shot that goes in off the backboard. Nobody diminishes the greatness of the shot because it hit the backboard. Well, I think a botched dunk attempt in a dunk contest isn't a dunk just because it goes in.
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Post#55 » by Wizenheimer » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:36 pm

if Dwight had been drinking and he botched his dunk attempt, would it have been drunk dunk junk?

and if he had received no score because of it's botchiness, would he have been drunk dunk junk skunked?

and if you don't think my joke is funny, does that mean I made a drunk dunk junk skunked clunker?
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Post#56 » by ss1986v2 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:23 pm

d-train wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


So, the argument in favor is it was a spectacular dunk attempt that went in therefore it was a dunk. The same principle as a 3/4 court shot that goes in off the backboard. Nobody diminishes the greatness of the shot because it hit the backboard. Well, I think a botched dunk attempt in a dunk contest isn't a dunk just because it goes in.

didnt say that. you simply stated that it "wouldnt have been considered a dunk" before last night. i simply showed that it would have still been called a "dunk". or do you think that the clip i showed never actually happened? same situation (applying a force at a downward angle on the ball, no contact with the rim), and was considered a dunk back then.

calling it a botch would also be opinion: do you know thats not what he wanted to do?
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Post#57 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:55 pm

ss1986v2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


didnt say that. you simply stated that it "wouldnt have been considered a dunk" before last night. i simply showed that it would have still been called a "dunk". or do you think that the clip i showed never actually happened? same situation (applying a force at a downward angle on the ball, no contact with the rim), and was considered a dunk back then.

calling it a botch would also be opinion: do you know thats not what he wanted to do?

So, you are saying Dwight intended to throw the ball down from a foot or so short of the rim. And, since he intended to throw the ball down from far away, it was an even more spectacular shot and a successful dunk attempt. I always thought a dunk was preceded by a spectacular physical feat and the throw down was supposed to be an inevitable result rather than a suspenseful event. So, you claim the 1-foot "dunk shot" was a greater feat because it was more difficult and was no accident. That's an interesting point of view, but did he call it. Or, is this just a weak attempt to explain away a debacle.
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Post#58 » by IPC075009 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:38 pm

so d-train, if what dwight howard and keon clark didnt dunk, what would you call it??
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Post#59 » by d-train » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:57 pm

IPC075009 wrote:so d-train, if what dwight howard and keon clark didnt dunk, what would you call it??

A shot, you can give it a name if you want but "dunk" is already taken.
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Post#60 » by Mr Odd » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:30 pm

Personally in my opinion it was not a dunk.
However by definition it was a dunk but not
a slam dunk. My definition has always been
a dunk includes the touching of the rim. But
if you go by the writen word of it, Howard
did do a dunk. However any self respecting
basketball fan/player wouldnt call it a dunk.

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