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The Superman Dunk was not a dunk.

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Post#201 » by maginno » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:39 pm

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Since you haven't noticed people are tired of us going back and forth over physics. so -

For the last time I am going to explain the rudimentary issues involved in this debate. First off thrust is not a dictionary word confined to jet usage. You are trying to strain a point. Thrust by your very own supplied dictionary definition is

to "put or drive with force" says nothing about increasing or decreasing that force (fact is that as the basket goes through the hoop being thrown by Dwight the force acting on the ball is being added to by gravity but you missed that claiming it has nothing to do with it because it blows your point)

You even quoted that definition with full examples so lets look at the first dictionary example

"He thrust his way through the crowd."

lets apply your positively stupid (there is no other word for it) assertion. IF a man thrust his way through a crowd by jumping he is only thrusting when he is not in contact with the ground (since he cannot increase force while in the air). Even as he moves through the crowd he is not thrusting his way through the crowd. What you are doing is straining at technical gibberish to side step the obvious and its silly while professing some deep wisdom.


how stupid and silly? well according to you if I swing and stab you with a knife I am thrusting you through but if I get on skateboard use my foot to propel the skateboard toward you and I roll with knife in hand and it goes in the same place I am not thrusting you through because I haven't increased force at the moment of contact. Positively stupid.

All of this os underlined by the fact that some dictionaries simply say throw with NO emphasis on thrust not because they are uneducated (Mirriam webster is a well respected authority on word usage and employs people with far more expertise than you will ever be within a mile of equaling) but because the others usage of thrust is entirely consistent with throw since throw is driving with force.


In short. You have no point. You never have.

No? Well enlighten us how Mirriam Webster is wrong by stating that dunk is to throw down and spare the silliness of claiming the other two disagree. We both know they do not since throw can and is the same as drive with force in many a word usage.

Skip the hypocrisy and dishonesty and deal with the issue or run away
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Post#202 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:39 pm

Well trevor never touched the rim so i guess thats not a dunk right?

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Post#203 » by TheMadMagician » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:41 pm

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If you mean Raptors fans, then yes a lot agree with you. But is that really a surprise? Even if Dwight did a flip dunk over the backboard they would still complain.

edit: and by your tone in this thread I imagine you would find a way to complain too?


Im only complaining about this "dunk" because it wasnt a dunk. If he wouldve finished it, it wouldve been top 5 all time. I dont normally complain you simpleton, I just think that it wasnt a dunk.
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Post#204 » by Nothingface » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:41 pm

Gerhalt11 wrote:You know, themadmagician, if you're so convinced that the attempt was flawed and should not have counted or he should have made another attempt, then perhaps you should consider removing it from your signature...


What does believing it's a dunk or not matter in appreciating it?
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Post#205 » by Nothingface » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:43 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Well trevor never touched the rim so i guess thats not a dunk right?

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Looks like he touched the rim to me. Regardless, I don't think you have to touch the rim to make it a dunk. I tend to believe the ball has to be "stuffed" into the ring to make it a dunk.
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Post#206 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:43 pm

Freaking canadians dude i swear!!!!
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Post#207 » by Last Guardian » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:44 pm

I have learned a lot of interesting things about force, momentum and inertia.
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Post#208 » by Nothingface » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:44 pm

to clarify:

If the hand is exerting downward force on the ball as it crosses the plane of the rim, it's a dunk.
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Post#209 » by Nothingface » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:45 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Freaking canadians dude i swear!!!!



Yeah, us Canadians and our rational thought. Such bastards we are...
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Post#210 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:49 pm

I am a Raptors fan and Howard deserved to win the Dunk Contest. All of his "dunks" were in fact dunks. The superman dunk wasn't close to my personal top 5 fav of all time, but it was very impressive. I also don't understand all the hate towards all raptors fans simply because some disagree with other people. I have seen fans of several teams post thinking that it wasn't a dunk and yet Raptors fan get the most hate. Some of it is deserved to those Raps fans but I think you guys are taking it way too far. That Canadian comment was really just immature and not needed.
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Post#211 » by TheGlyde » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:51 pm

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First of all, I rarely ever complain about the magic. Im usually an optimistic person, But, it was not a dunk. If Gerald Green did exactly what Dwight did, I bet u guys would be pissed off. Also, that other guy had a good argument, was Kareems jumphook a dunk? it was always above the rim. Dwight did own everyone else I agree, but the the best real dunk was the backboard tapper.


No, Because a skyhook is not thrown downward through the rim :banghead:
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Post#212 » by Last Guardian » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:52 pm

Well guess what guys. By definition, it cannot have been a layup or a jumpshot. You can't possibly argue that. So if you are insisting it wasn't a dunk, then what the hell was it.

Too bad, Keon Clarks shot was considered a dunk all these years. Seems like an awfully similar shot to me.
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Post#213 » by clydestudent1276 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:54 pm

maginno wrote:to "put or drive with force" says nothing about increasing or decreasing that force (fact is that as the basket goes through the hoop being thrown by Dwight the force acting on the ball is being added to by gravity but you missed that claiming it has nothing to do with it because it blows your point)


This pretty much sums up that thrust issue. Thrust isn't something only for the aerodynamic world. If you throw something through the air, once it has left your hand, it has been thrusted by you. At this point anymore discussion on that issue is just redudant.
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Post#214 » by Simplicity0 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:55 pm

mattyBoi wrote:Freaking canadians dude i swear!!!!

Isn't nothingface on our side? :dontknow:
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Post#215 » by mattyBoi » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:57 pm

clydestudent1276 wrote:I am a Raptors fan and Howard deserved to win the Dunk Contest. All of his "dunks" were in fact dunks. The superman dunk wasn't close to my personal top 5 fav of all time, but it was very impressive. I also don't understand all the hate towards all raptors fans simply because some disagree with other people. I have seen fans of several teams post thinking that it wasn't a dunk and yet Raptors fan get the most hate. Some of it is deserved to those Raps fans but I think you guys are taking it way too far. That Canadian comment was really just immature and not needed.


Oh STFU you overly sensitive terence and phillip wannabe.

How bout you go back to your own board, create a thread titled, The Official Jamario Moon guaranteed a victory and let us down, so lets do everything we can to discredit dwight howard for owning everyone Thread.
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Post#216 » by Bucs80 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:58 pm

You know what Dwight should have done at the end

Kiss the rim.....

That would have been the top 3 greatest performance of all-time
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Post#217 » by TheGlyde » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:58 pm

The reality of the fact is that if Dwight had just done his 3 other dunks and instead of the Superman dunk scratched his backside while dunking he still would have won the competition by a landslide, his 1st and 3rd dunks were far better than anything else the others came up with.
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Post#218 » by SOUL » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:00 pm

mattyBoi wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Oh STFU you overly sensitive terence and phillip wannabe.

How bout you go back to your own board, create a thread titled, The Official Jamario Moon guaranteed a victory and let us down, so lets do everything we can to discredit dwight howard for owning everyone Thread.


Dude, are you like 10?
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Post#219 » by Simplicity0 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:00 pm

I think Dwight's saving the kiss the rim dunk for next year. Is he even going to participate next year? For 2 years straight we've been under the impression that his kiss the rim dunk will be his main dunk, it would kind of suck if he never does it.
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Post#220 » by MagicFan3 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:02 pm

Soul wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Dude, are you like 10?


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