Calderon and his scoring

[sca]

We are,

11-8 (0.579) when he scores 15 or more points,
9-2 (0.818) when he attempts 4 or more free throws,
8-5 (0.615) when he attempts 4 or more three pointers and
15-10 (0.600) when he attempts 10 or more shats.

I don't know about you but these stats are interesting to me. Does these show that he should shoot the ball more?

(we are 3-0 when he blocks a shat btw )

[Egg Nog]

While these numbers are statistically insignificant, I do agree with what you're saying.

Jose has shown that he can maintain his remarkably high percentages when he takes more attempts than usual. High-percentage shooters who can do this should absolutely be encouraged to score more.

[The Letter V]

I think it's the only way he, and the team can take the next step. He has to stop being so passive and put more pressure on the D. He's too good to be deferring to guys like Delfino, Moon, Humphries etc. You could even argue by being so passive he is actually hurting the team. To me his passivity (turning down shots and refusing to attempt even the slightest risky pass) is equally as annoying as TJ's spurts of erratic shot selection.

[Illuminati]

While these numbers are statistically insignificant, I do agree with what you're saying.

Jose has shown that he can maintain his remarkably high percentages when he takes more attempts than usual. High-percentage shooters who can do this should absolutely be encouraged to score more.

These numbers are statistically significant.

Jose has shown that he can lead a team given the ropes, I would love to see him improve his D and take the next step.

[supersub15]

Here's something else to munch on. Here are the mid range shooting percentages for the top players in the league (using NBA Hot Zones):

1. Jose Calderon 561% (115-205)
2. Steve Nash 529% (83-157)
3. Derek Fisher 519% (97-187)
4. Jason Kapono 517% (74-143)
5. Malik Allen 513% (81-158)
6. Dirk Nowitzki 507% (136-268)
7. Dorell Wright 503% (76-151)
8. Kevin Garnett 500% (94-188)
9. Mo Williams 496% (112-226)
10. Channing Frye 491% (79-161)

Last year, Calderon was 2nd (after Tony Parker) at finishing layups among PGs. So, we have a point guard that is the league leader in mid-range shooting, 4th in 3-pt shooting, 2nd in FT% and who was 2nd last year at finishing layups (didn't want to bother doing the calculations this year).

[Fairview4Life]

He should definitely be shooting/trying to score more. It's what is holding him back from being one of the best PG's in the league.

[Egg Nog]

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These numbers are statistically significant.

Jose has shown that he can lead a team given the ropes, I would love to see him improve his D and take the next step.

The 4 or more free throws might have something to it, but none of the other ones are highly different from our winning %.

That said, I am absolutely not denying the logic. I completely agree with the idea that Jose shooting more will be good for the Raps, and that it has been so far.

[TheMainEvent]

Those stats really dont tell me anything.

"11-8 (0.579) when he scores 15 or more points"

I dont know whether that's actually a good thing or a bad thing. I figured the record would be a bit better if he scores 15 or more. 11-8 isn't that great.

[Ackshun]

I think it's the only way he, and the team can take the next step. He has to stop being so passive and put more pressure on the D. He's too good to be deferring to guys like Delfino, Moon, Humphries etc. You could even argue by being so passive he is actually hurting the team. To me his passivity (turning down shots and refusing to attempt even the slightest risky pass) is equally as annoying as TJ's spurts of erratic shot selection.

he wont shoot it unless there is an opportunity for an offensive rebound.

this is what he says at least.

[General Ford]

We are,

11-8 (0.579) when he scores 15 or more points,
9-2 (0.818) when he attempts 4 or more free throws,
8-5 (0.615) when he attempts 4 or more three pointers and
15-10 (0.600) when he attempts 10 or more shats.

I don't know about you but these stats are interesting to me. Does these show that he should shoot the ball more?

(we are 3-0 when he blocks a shat btw )

I don't get it. We're still just average when he does take more shots

[HighOctane]

I think if we want an all round team, he should be 2nd - 3rd option for our team. As a PG, you should have options, and if it has to resort to your shot, then its money.

If we want Jose to shoot more, we might as well ask for Billups. The preferance should be for the pg to be pass first.

Jose is a really good player, I'm not taking anything away from him, just that he's fine as he is, and we should have more scoring options surrounding him rather than relying on him for pts.

Nash has(d) Marion and Amare, with Bell and Hill.

Calderon has just Bosh. We need someone else.

[AB_21]

Also, we're 14-13 when Calderon shoots less than 10 shots.
We're 7-5 when Calderon shoots 12 or more shots.

We're a just above .500 team regardless of how many shots Jose takes.

[cdel00]

Jose is awesome he has respect from the other teams now. Its fun to watch him play and freeze defenders. They don't want him to shoot, pass or drive so they end up standing on their heels waiting for Jose to initiate and when they do react, Jose torches them.

When Jose reads the floor defensively as well as he reads it offensively watch out

[CB4-TJ11-AB7]

Statistically and Mathematically these stats are very insignificant. Regardless of how many shots he takes we are a smidge above average. There is no correlation between Jose shooting and us winning, nor should there be. The only player who's shooting should correlate with our winning is Bosh.

Jose shouldn't take more shots he just needs to learn when he has an offensive advantage. He needs to be more proactive with setting up our offense. The guy is great but the next step is now playing actively not passively. He did that the last 2 games but I want to see it over a stretch of 10 games, then 15 then consistently.

[Leiro]

Well, we are above 5 right now, we are a 55 % team, for sure playoffs team in allstar break. Two years ago we are a sh*t, remember? Give their credit to the players and coach.

[Tha Cynic]

Also, we're 14-13 when Calderon shoots less than 10 shots.
We're 7-5 when Calderon shoots 12 or more shots.

We're a just above .500 team regardless of how many shots Jose takes.

Exactly. These stats are insignificant. What he really needs to do is improve his defense to take the next step.

[Schad]

Last year, Calderon was 2nd (after Tony Parker) at finishing layups among PGs. So, we have a point guard that is the league leader in mid-range shooting, 4th in 3-pt shooting, 2nd in FT% and who was 2nd last year at finishing layups (didn't want to bother doing the calculations this year).

If 82games is up to date (doubt it), Jose is shooting a .649 eFG on close range shots. Add .561 from mid-range and .707 from three, and he's not a bad little player.

[El Presidente]

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These numbers are statistically significant.

Jose has shown that he can lead a team given the ropes, I would love to see him improve his D and take the next step.

What? How are they significant, I don't know what kind of threshold 4 FTs is, I mean he could get those shooting illegal defense calls and an intentional foul towards the end of the game.

The only thing to take out of it is that we can have success when he's being assertive, especially when our resident second scoring option Bargnani is laying bricks. This team's "core" of Bargnani/Bosh are counted on to provide scoring and when one of them doesn't deliver, the onus is usually on someone like Calderon/Ford/Kapono to pick up the slack. Since TJ's injury and the crackdown on Kapono, Calderon has become the only guy who is still able to produce on the offensive end.

A general statement like, "It's good for Calderon to shoot more" or "If Calderon scores X points, we'll have a Y chance of winning" is just not true because generally speaking, when he's scoring someone like Bosh/Bargnani are struggling. It's all about being selective in your offense and Jose's done a good job of picking his spots nicely.

[Korr]

I dont think these stats are significant at all, but I do want him to take more shots in games because the rest of the team is really inconsistent offensively (except Bosh).

[m1kenoff]

Actually if you extend these numbers throughout the midawy park...


11-8 (0.579) when he scores 15 or more points,
9-2 (0.818) when he attempts 4 or more free throws,
8-5 (0.615) when he attempts 4 or more three pointers and
15-10 (0.600) when he attempts 10 or more shats.



We would be roughly

36 - 8 if Jose attempted 4 or more free throws a game
30 - 20 if Jose attempted 10 or more shats
33 - 24 if Jose scored 15 or more points
32- 20 if Jose attempted 4 or more three pointers

So without a calculator or a functioning brain, If Jose was more agressive on D, we would be an estimated:


31-20 - 11 games over 500 as opposed to 5.