Is Chris Paul a Top 10 player right now?

Post #1 » by **TMU** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:14 pm

Many consider him to be the leading MVP candidate, and he has clearly shown that he's more than an all-star. But does he break the top 10?

Post #2 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:18 pm

In terms of this season?

If so, he's been a Top 5 player in the league. He's been huge in the fourth quarter, on the best team record wise in the Western Conference and averaging 20/10 while leading the league in steals. That's easily Top 10 material.

MagicFan3 · Post #3 » by **MagicFan3** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:22 pm

He's an MVP candidate. There's no such thing as an MVP candidate that isn't a top 10 player.

Post #4 » by **TMU** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:29 pm

MagicFan3 wrote:He's an MVP candidate. There's no such thing as an MVP candidate that isn't a top 10 player.

The better question will be, is he currently a top 10 player and will he maintain his status as a top 10 in the coming years?

Myth_Breaker · Post #5 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:45 pm

MagicFan3 wrote:He's an MVP candidate. There's no such thing as an MVP candidate that isn't a top 10 player.

I fully agree. In no particular order:

- Kobe
- Duncan
- Garnett
- Nash
- Nowitzki
- Yao
- LeBron
- PAUL

Yep, I can't see any other sure-thing candidates that could push CP3 out of Top-10, only some borderline, disputable candidates like Iverson or Wade (I'm not saying that Paul is certainly superior to D-Will, but is even more important for his team, while Hornets - despite being less stacked - have better record than Jazz).

Dirk_diggler_41 · Post #6 » by **Dirk_diggler_41** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:54 pm

Yes. But he has been a top ten player for just a short period of time.

hermes · Post #7 » by **hermes** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:08 pm

T-Mac United wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The better question will be, is he currently a top 10 player and will he maintain his status as a top 10 in the coming years?

yes and yes

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Myth_Breaker · Post #8 » by **Myth_Breaker** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:20 pm

T-Mac United wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The better question will be, is he currently a top 10 player and will he maintain his status as a top 10 in the coming years?

Considering how young he is, is there any reason to suggest otherwise? It is Duncan or Garnett that should worry about leaving Top-10 in next couple of years.

Post #9 » by **Nolan** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:27 pm

This season yes. In fact he's a top 5 player in the league this year.

d-will8 · Post #10 » by **d-will8** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:36 pm

Based solely on this season, you'd certainly have to say that he is. I'd definitely rate him below LeBron, Kobe, KG, Duncan, Nash, Dirk and Wade, and I'm not sure about guys like Yao and Melo. I think I'd have to put him in the bottom of the top 10, just because he does so much for his team. Really the only players in the league who have to do as much for their teams and can do it as well as he does are LeBron, Wade and maybe Nash (his supporting cast is better, though). Even Kobe's got a lot of help these days.

risktaker91 · Post #11 » by **risktaker91** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:43 pm

Right now he's Top 5. Maybe even top 3 behind Garnett and James.

Patterns · Post #12 » by **Patterns** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:29 am

He might be the best player this year.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #13 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:42 am

he's the 2nd best player this year next Lebron..

but THIS SEASON doesn't mean much in terms of overall rankings..Mike Miller is better than Arenas and Brand this year, it doesn't mean he's better than them in general(obviously)..

I would still put him in my top 10 though, definitely..but I would like to see what he does in the playoffs before I rank him ahead of a guy like Steve Nash..

I would have(in no order) Duncan, Garnett, Kobe, LBJ, Nash, Dwight, Yao, Paul, Dirk and Wade in my top 10 overall players in the NBA..

Jules Winnfield · Post #14 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:46 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:he's the 2nd best player this year next Lebron..

but THIS SEASON doesn't mean much in terms of overall rankings..Mike Miller is better than Arenas and Brand this year, it doesn't mean he's better than them in general(obviously)..

I would still put him in my top 10 though, definitely..but I would like to see what he does in the playoffs before I rank him ahead of a guy like Steve Nash..

I would have(in no order) Duncan, Garnett, Kobe, LBJ, Nash, Dwight, Yao, Paul, Dirk and Wade in my top 10 overall players in the NBA..

Hilarious, but Paul is top 10 no doubt. He's not better than Bryant though.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #15 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:57 am

I never said he was better than Kobe..like I CLEEEAAAAARRRLLLYYYYYY stated, this season isn't the same as the overall rankings in general..

Jules Winnfield · Post #16 » by **Jules Winnfield** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:01 am

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I never said he was better than Kobe..like I CLEEEAAAAARRRLLLYYYYYY stated, this season isn't the same as the overall rankings in general..

I know what you wrote and THIS season he clearly isn't better than Kobe individually.

I guess offensively you could make a weak case for Paul being better, but when you add defensive impact...it becomes clear Kobe's having a better overall individual season.

oh wait, I forgot...you disagree because Kobe's a rapist.

HarlemHeat37 · Post #17 » by **HarlemHeat37** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:49 am

you said it, not me..

Kobe being clearly better than Paul is false..it's close either way..Paul has a significantly higher PER, which even underrates players at his position..21 points and 11 assists with 2 and a half steals on the #1 team in the West is in the argument against ANY player in the NBA..his win shares are higher, his ratings are higher while also having lower usage..

he's also a solid defender, so that argument isn't a big factor IMO..definitely not enough to put Kobe CLEARLY ahead like you said..

there is definitely a strong argument..and then you have to mention the leadership aspect of basketball..Kobe fans usually ignore leadership, because they've never seen any from Kobe..

I found it funny that you said "hilarious" and put laughing signs about Paul being better this year..Kobe and his fans are so insecure, it's really cute..

carrottop12 · Post #18 » by **carrottop12** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:34 am

^^^^^
It really isn't close, and it is clear that Kobe has been much better this year.

Put Kobe on the Hornets with B-Jax instead of Paul, and Paul on the Lakers pre Gasol and you will find the Hornets are a legit conteder with West, Peja, and Chandler around him.

Put Paul on the Lakers and you have a group of talented young guys who probably aren't on their way to the playoffs.

There is a reason that most people think that the Hornets are destined for a first round playoff exit, but that opinion would be different if Paul was traded for Kobe.

WesWesley · Post #19 » by **WesWesley** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:29 am

Paul is such a special talent, and he's easily in the top ten already.

He'll be top 3 in the league at some point in the near future, but right now he is still behind guys like duncan, kobe, garnett etc.

farzi · Post #20 » by **farzi** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:50 am

He's the 6th best player in the league.

The order goes
Kobe
Bynum
Gasol
Odom
Fisher
Paul