GT: Knicks @ Wizards 02-19-08

Post #181 » by **nate33** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:39 am

Yup, EJ isn't going anywhere as long as Arenas and Butler are hurt.

We desperately miss Butler right now. Yeah, we should have won without him, but this team is sorely lacking in mental toughness. Butler would have gotten a steal or a key rebound to turn this thing around.

mohammed10 · Post #182 » by **mohammed10** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:39 am

miller31time wrote:-

It may feel like it is. It may seem like it is. Heck, it may look like it is.

But it's not. EJ is here for the longhaul, and we're just going to have to accept that.

millertime - unfortunately, I think you are correct!

hands11 · Post #183 » by **hands11** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:39 am

nate33 wrote:It's times like this when you realize how much Arenas has bailed EJ out. EJ is just terrible at drawing up late-game plays.

Exactly. And that is why EJ could never coach a star like GA.

EJ needed GA more then GA needed EJ. And way back when GA said he supported EJ was just because he know he owned EJ so he could do whatever he wanted.

Now everyone wants to win. I have no doubt EJ is loosing this team even though you won't hear it from their mouths.

And people got on Collin for not handling MJ when MJ hired him.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #184 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:40 am

The Wizards gave up 23 points in overtime and Eddie is talking to Isaih all calm after the game.

Post #185 » by **miller31time** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:41 am

nate33 wrote:Yup, EJ isn't going anywhere as long as Arenas and Butler are hurt.

We desperately miss Butler right now. Yeah, we should have won without him, but this team is sorely lacking in mental toughness. Butler would have gotten a steal or a key rebound to turn this thing around.

Butler is also a player who you KNOW is going to be on the court at the end of games. So we don't have to rely on Eddie to make the correct substitutions (ala Young in for Daniels, etc), since we all know that will never turn out well.

gowiz999 · Post #186 » by **gowiz999** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:41 am

Philly and Atlanta will pass us in no time. This team just defies logic. How in the hell do you give up 23 points in a 5 minute Overtime on your home floor? AD, AB, and AJ should be fined one game's pay for their pathetic performances tonight.

btw, What the **** is Young laughing and smiling at?? That pisses me off. I bet you don't see anyone else on the team laughing and joking around.

JWizmentality · Post #187 » by **JWizmentality** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:41 am

Is anybody else frikkin sick of the ball being placed in Antawn "couldn't hit water if I fell off a boat" Jamison's hands when we need a basket. We had young who was 6-8 and Mason who was hot yet we give the ball to AJ who was 7-17 on two straight possessions!!!??!!!?

*sees Butler wiretap*
Oh that just friggin great!!! More of Mr. Consistent but consistently unclutch Jamison.

Wizards2Lottery · Post #188 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:42 am

Eddie draws the worst late game plays. **** the princeton offense.

We lose games to scrub teams every year. And our homecourt too!!!

jivelikenice · Post #189 » by **jivelikenice** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:42 am

I just really don't understand the last possession of regulation. The only player on our roster at this moment who can create a shot for himself is Nick Young. Why not bring him in and let him run down the clock. W/O Butler or Arenas none of the other players are capable of that and we don't even have Young on the floor. Wow

Post #190 » by **nate33** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:43 am

Let's not put this entire loss on EJ though. EJ made two critical mistakes as I see them. The last-second play call was atrocious. And he did not bring Nick Young back in. (Note that he had to rest Young a little. Young played from the middle of the 3rd to the middle of the 4th. I didn't mind him sitting Young when he did. He just should have brought Young back in with about 3 minutes to go.)

New York recognized that AD was afraid to shoot from the outside so they just packed it in. We needed to counter with outside shooting. EJ should have went with Mason, Young, Stevenson, Jamison and Wood down the stretch.

southnc · Post #191 » by **southnc** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:47 am

Man, the Wiz looked like they wanted no part of OT. It was like either win on the last shot of regulation or throw in the towel in OT. :-?

The Knicks are a team your supposed to beat. :noway:

80sballboy · Post #192 » by **80sballboy** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:47 am

EJ lost the game? How about Daniels. He was horrible. And everbody wanted Haywood in the game even against the smaller lineup and we were chewed up defensively by dribble penetrating and Randolph pulling Haywood outside of the paint. Terrible game. Terrible effort. No excuses for injuries when you give the starters all that rest with a lead and they lay an egg like that.

adjacent2bench · Post #193 » by **adjacent2bench** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:51 am

Guys wanna trade coaches?

dandridge 10 · Post #194 » by **dandridge 10** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:55 am

80sballboy wrote:EJ lost the game? How about Daniels. He was horrible. And everbody wanted Haywood in the game even against the smaller lineup and we were chewed up defensively by dribble penetrating and Randolph pulling Haywood outside of the paint. Terrible game. Terrible effort. No excuses for injuries when you give the starters all that rest with a lead and they lay an egg like that.

Gotta agree with you here. It almost looked like AD was purposefully trying to throw the game. The only thing I blame Eddie with is not going to Young more. He had the hot hand but EJ failed to ride him. Wiz should have kept going down to Young on the block until New York could show that they could stop him. But, the reason why we lost is AD's pathetic play down the stretch of regulation and the lack of effort from most everyone on the team.

Post #195 » by **nate33** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:55 am

80sballboy wrote:EJ lost the game? How about Daniels. He was horrible. And everbody wanted Haywood in the game even against the smaller lineup and we were chewed up defensively by dribble penetrating and Randolph pulling Haywood outside of the paint. Terrible game. Terrible effort. No excuses for injuries when you give the starters all that rest with a lead and they lay an egg like that.

Nobody else on the team can guard Randolph. If EJ pulled Haywood out, Randolph would have dominated in the paint.

hands11 · Post #196 » by **hands11** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:58 am

nate33 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Nobody else on the team can guard Randolph. If EJ pulled Haywood out, Randolph would have dominated in the paint.

How can people limit EJs mistakes to just two? He made plenty of line up mistakes.

And for Haywood or Blatche, I keep saying it, you need them together, not one or the other.

Post #197 » by **nate33** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:58 am

dandridge 10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Gotta agree with you here. It almost looked like AD was purposefully trying to throw the game. The only thing I blame Eddie with is not going to Young more. He had the hot hand but EJ failed to ride him. Wiz should have kept going down to Young on the block until New York could show that they could stop him. But, the reason why we lost is AD's pathetic play down the stretch of regulation and the lack of effort from most everyone on the team.

That's what I was trying to say before but didn't get it across. EJ made two big errors, (Nick Young and the last-second play) but the team made the rest of the mistakes. AD was terrible. Deshawn was invisible. Haywood was mediocre and made a terrible defensive play reaching on that Crawford pick-and-roll. Blatche was terrible (though he didn't get any help from the refs either). The only guys that looked okay were Jamison, Mason and Young.

tsvqt · Post #198 » by **tsvqt** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:59 am

It is sooooooooo hard to watch a team that you love do the things the Wizards do. I swear it's like a curse with these home teams, whether it's basketball or football.
You have to take in account the team playing without it's best two players, BUT you're playing the NEW YORK KNICKS on your home court.

Did anyone else notice how Jamison was looking on the bench after Daniels dribbled out the clock and threw up that garbage to end regulation? I think Jamison was genuinely displeased at the play call and outcome of that. I think the ball has to be in his hand in that situation because he's your best player. If you can't get him the ball, then you go with your hottest player, which would have been NY1.

Caron has to come back Friday........no way we can beat Cleveland without him.

fishercob · Post #199 » by **fishercob** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:59 am

Terrible loss. Gutless performance to a man by the Wizards. WIth our record and our schedule, everyone on this team had to take it upon themselves to make sure we won this game and the team failed miserably when it mattered most.

Andray Blatche, I love you kid, but are you kidding me? Coming off the All-Star break you come with that kind of weak ass effort? Floating jumpers, no activity on D or on the boards, no hustle filling the lanes?

AD, step up or sit down. If you're too hurt to play, save us the Mark Brunell routine help your team by stepping aside and giving someone else a chance.

Songaila, how about making a friggin open set shot? Remember when Ernie signed you and said your biggest strength was that you made shots?

Eddie, what the hell is with your end of quarter "play-calling?" it's a joke.

You all owe us a W.

Now to those of you who think that Eddie's the main reason for this loss, you're morons. The notion that Gil bailed Eddie out is akin to Michael Jordan bailing out Phil Jackson, and Magic bailing out Pat Riley.. It's a players league. Players play. Players win. Match up the Suns coached by Kevin Federline against the T'Wolves coached by John Wooden, Adolph Rupp, Red Auerbach, et all, and the Suns will beat 'em nine out of tens.

The Wizards needed to step up tonight and win game and they played like dogs. For shame. :nonono:

Post #200 » by **nate33** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:01 am

hands11 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

How can people limit EJs mistakes to just two? He made plenty of line up mistakes.

And for Haywood or Blatche, I keep saying it, you need them together, not one or the other.

C'mon Hands. Blatche was awful tonight. The offense was totally stagnant with the two bigs alongside the thoroughly ineffective AD. I thought EJ made the right move bringing in a third guard and moving Jamison to PF. We didn't really suffer on the defensive glass because of it and New York wasn't scoring on the block.

The problem was that he had the wrong 3 guards in the game. Instead of AD, Mason, Stevenson; he should have had Mason, Stevenson, Young.

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