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Post#1 » by Mogwai: » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:28 pm

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Post#2 » by AnDrOiDKing4 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:37 pm

We will still be over the cap even though those contracts come off the books.

but overall our team salary will be less than it would of been if Bibby was still here.

basically we are starting to rebuild so we are getting rid of the big contracts and save up some money.
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Post#4 » by Mogwai: » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:55 pm

Thank you.

So, that means that the Kings are out of the run for top free agents in the next summer. For instance, it
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Post#5 » by AnDrOiDKing4 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:58 pm

i thought due to Martins + Willaims contract we will still be over the cap/ at the cap, can anyone confirm this ?
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Post#6 » by chriswebb86 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:09 am

Mogwai: wrote:Thank you.

So, that means that the Kings are out of the run for top free agents in the next summer. For instance, it
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Post#7 » by Ballings7 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 am

I'd sacrifice Brad for an above-average package.

Ron and KT, is pretty much a siamese twin situation. :P
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Post#8 » by chrbal » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:09 am

AnDrOiDKing4 wrote:i thought due to Martins + Willaims contract we will still be over the cap/ at the cap, can anyone confirm this ?


Well what is the cap number for next season? Or whats at least a fair guess.

Shamsports.com has Sacramento at just over $53 million for next season. But the team will need to sign its draft pick, Kevin Martin, and Beno Udrih to contracts for next season.

On a sidenote, this may not be liked...but if I ran the Kings I would be looking into buyouts for Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim.
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Post#9 » by ICMTM » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:45 am

Until Brad Miller is moved the Kings will look the same. I told you he was the one that needed to go 1st because his deal (compared to Bibby and Artest) is the worst or hardest to move.
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Post#10 » by pillwenney » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:10 am

chrbal wrote:Well what is the cap number for next season? Or whats at least a fair guess.

Shamsports.com has Sacramento at just over $53 million for next season. But the team will need to sign its draft pick, Kevin Martin, and Beno Udrih to contracts for next season.

On a sidenote, this may not be liked...but if I ran the Kings I would be looking into buyouts for Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim.
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True, but that's $53million assuming that Ron doesn't opt out, which he will, so it's not so tight--Martin is already signed to a 5 year $55million extension.

Buying out Kenny has largely been discussed on this board, and I think that we'd be happy if we could buy him out. Nobody around here will argue against Kenny sucking. In fact, sucking is probably how many would put it nicely.

Buying out SAR wouldn't be totally wise at this point IMO. He may still come back strong from surgery next year (if he doesn't we can just buy him out later) and if he does, then we may be able to get expirings for him.
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Post#11 » by ss1986v2 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 am

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True, but that's $53million assuming that Ron doesn't opt out, which he will, so it's not so tight--Martin is already signed to a 5 year $55million extension.

yes, but that 53 mil figure doesnt include martins new extension either. and you would figure its somewhere in the range of 10 mil or so (depending of how the raises are distributed). that figures to put the kings right around 55 mil come the offseason (if no further moves are made, and artest opts out and is renounced). and 55 mil is most likley going to be less than the MLE worth from the new cap, so the MLE is all the kings can expect to spend, barring any further moves.
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Post#12 » by pillwenney » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:20 am

ss1986v2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


yes, but that 53 mil figure doesnt include martins new extension either. and you would figure its somewhere in the range of 10 mil or so (depending of how the raises are distributed). that figures to put the kings right around 55 mil come the offseason (if no further moves are made, and artest opts out and is renounced). and 55 mil is most likley going to be less than the MLE worth from the new cap, so the MLE is all the kings can expect to spend, barring any further moves.


Oh I know that, and I wasn't trying to say that we will have cap space (unless certain other deals are made), I was referring to the luxury tax.
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Post#13 » by sactownsport » Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:43 pm

We Shouldnt have paid Kevin Martin so much money.Maybe 6million, maybe 7 million, but, 11,000,000 for the next 5 years?
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Post#14 » by realfung » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:31 am

Brad Miller's contract is about to be removed very soon....

Looks like Magics will take anything for now
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Post#15 » by pillwenney » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:15 am

sactownsport wrote:We Shouldnt have paid Kevin Martin so much money.Maybe 6million, maybe 7 million, but, 11,000,000 for the next 5 years?


Elite scorers don't come cheaply. And none of them come as cheaply as you suggested. That's just ludicrous.
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Post#16 » by Smills91 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:47 am

We didn't get Martin for a bargain, but we didn't 'overpay' him like a Larry Hughes or Michael Redd type deal. 9-11 million is about right for a 25 ppg guy

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