Disappointed or No??

Post #1 » by **Mr Odd** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:05 am

Will you be disappointed if Pritchard does not
make a move before the NBA trade deadline??
Even if its just a minor trade.. .

(Pritchard is awesome. Im not trying to put him down
in any way. Please do not make it into that. Thanks!!)

Post #2 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:28 am

Nope. If a trade happens, great.

If not, meh, oh well. There will be plenty of moves in the summer.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #3 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:30 am

I am in no rush to see a deal, but I would really appreciate it if KP stole Mike Miller.

farzi · Post #4 » by **farzi** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:37 am

What Spykes said

tucson · Post #5 » by **tucson** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:40 am

Sometimes the best trade is the one that's never made.

It is smart to listen to all potential offers and see if any thing make sense long term. I expect KP will be very cautious in taking big contracts.

We are in a great situation right now, a franchise playmaking guard, a dominant young big man, and plenty of young talent. We can afford to be patient and let our core gel. We always need to be proactive and alert to a possible home run deal, but we don't need to make trades just to make them.

The roster problem next year is overrated. Neither Rudy nor the first round pick will be expected to be a major contributor next year. Neither Green nor McRoberts are guaranteed spots next year if the roster is full. KP also seems to have a affinity with drafting Euros with later first round draft picks.

Having said that, I expect KP will be active on draft night and could see roster thinning deals at that time.

So unless it's a no-brainer, no compelling reason to do trade right now.

Fitz303 · Post #6 » by **Fitz303** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:42 am

Yes. Now, I wouldnt lose faith in KP if he didnt and I trust that he'll make the right moves, but I think now is the time to sell high. This summer will still give us opportunities as well, but I have a feeling that values will go down for some by the summer time. I would be disapointed, but I wouldnt be pissed. Who knows, maybe he just doesnt get any good enough offers that would actually improve this team for the present and the future. Hopefully there are some deals out there though

Post #7 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:43 am

Quick was just on 1080 and said that if the Blazers make any moves before Thursday, he believes it will involve Jarrett Jack. Hes just been too erratic this season and the team is going to seriously need to look at opening up some roster spots.

Post #8 » by **Mr Odd** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:53 am

Spykes wrote:Quick was just on 1080 and said that if the Blazers make any moves before Thursday, he believes it will involve Jarrett Jack. Hes just been too erratic this season and the team is going to seriously need to look at opening up some roster spots.

Yea - He also said that when Jack handled
the ball it gave him (Quick) a uneasy feeling.

Im glad im not the only one that felt that!! lol.

-

I voted Yes because I think Pritchard can take
advantage of all these teams trading even if its
a small trade. I think its key to move Jack to
open up room for Rudy aswell as some other
players. I say this because I feel if Jack is here
and Rudy is here, Nate will play Jack even if
Rudy can become 5x better then Jack.. .

Thats just my opinion.. .even if its a 'lil exaggerated.

ebott · Post #9 » by **ebott** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:53 am

I voted no.

I don't think there's a move out there that will make us significantly better this season. If we did anything it would disrupt chemistry enough that the added talent wouldn't help. Or it would deplete our depth so much that it wouldn't help. Any move we make would be with an eye to the future. So we might as well hold off until the off-season to do that deal.

I think a better question would be whether you HOPE there will be a deal. You'd probably get a lot more yes votes.

NBAMAN2006 · Post #10 » by **NBAMAN2006** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:05 am

I hope we can deal Jack to a team in desperate need for a PG, netting a small expiring deal and a 2008 1st round pick(Probably w/ lotto protection).

Come draft night, having 2 1st rounders to use in a trade up(Along with 2 probable top 5 2nd round picks), will be more valuable than having Jack and 1 1st rounder to use in a trade up. Maby to Orlando for their 08' 1st rounder, or even Cleveland.

I think this package..

#10-14(Blazers own pick)
#24-28(Pick recieved in Jack deal)
#31-36(NYK 2nd rounder)
#31-36(MEM 2nd rounder)

...could move the Blazers up 3-5 slots.

Post #11 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:12 am

NBAMAN2006 wrote:I hope we can deal Jack to a team in desperate need for a PG, netting a small expiring deal and a 2008 1st round pick(Probably w/ lotto protection).

This is the kind of deal we could make on Draft Night, there's no need to do it before the deadline.

Yadadimean · Post #12 » by **Yadadimean** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:30 am

No and heres why:

It will mean that KP didn't see anything worth doing. If no trade is made, I would take that to mean that there was just nothing feasible or reasonable on the table. In KP we trust!

d-train · Post #13 » by **d-train** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:33 am

It's tougher for Blazers to make a trade because of cap space considerations. An excellent question would be could Blazers have got Pau Gasol but passed because of Gasol's contract. If not Pau Gasol, what other great trades have Blazers passed on because of cap space?

Post #14 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:39 am

I bet the Blazers could get Vince Carter REALLY cheap right now, but would pass, with cap considerations being one of many reasons why.

I don't buy that the Blazers had a chance at Gasol because I don't think they were interested in Gasol. Guys like Hughes, Nene and Curry could probably be had for pretty cheap as well, but along with them having bad contracts, just aren't very good and/or always injured.

But it's pretty clear that Pritchard isn't dead set on cap space. If you believe the reports, Pritchard made a hard push to grab Devin Harris but couldn't get it done. Had they got Harris, it would have put a serious crunch on the 09 cap plan.

So while the cap plan isn't "set in stone", there simply isn't a lot of players out there worth giving up that plan for.

PDXKnight · Post #15 » by **PDXKnight** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:07 am

I said yes but only because I think the blazers need a 3 pt shooter like mike miller. Granted, James Jones has been great but Mike Miller would be the safer bet IMO.

BigOrangeBalls · Post #16 » by **BigOrangeBalls** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:23 am

No, I wouldn't be dissapointed.

Of course if they could land a Top 5 young PG for only one of the 4-7 rotation players I would change my tune in a hurry.

Wizenheimer · Post #17 » by **Wizenheimer** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:37 am

after watching the Kings handle the blazers tonight, it would seem that portland definitely needs 'something', but it may not be available in a trade.

Since I don't put much credibility in the cap-space plan, I wouldn't mind seeing a move if it made some sense. I doubt KP will find one though till the off-season.

Post #18 » by **Spykes** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:22 am

Wizenheimer wrote:after watching the Kings handle the blazers tonight, it would seem that portland definitely needs 'something', but it may not be available in a trade.

That's another great point. I don't think there is 1 deal out there that we can make before the deadline that'll put us back in playoff contention.

Mike Miller is probably the closest player we could get before the deadline that would help us make the playoffs. But even with him, I just don't think we make it this season.

The West is just too tough. Teams that were struggling when he went on our run are now looking stronger than ever (Houston, Utah and to a lesser extent, GS). What that means is, we aren't going to get any 'favors' from the teams we have to compete against for those final spots.

Our best bet is to just ride out the final 30 games as is and go into the offseason with a full head of steam.

All that said, I must say that Mike Miller is looking like a great fit as losses continue to pile on. This team struggles so much without that outside shooter, and with Jones' knee continues to give him trouble, we could use someone who's a little more consistent.

I kinda gotta stop myself though, because as a fan, I'd obviously want us to make a short term fix deal that makes us better right now. But in reality, trading for Miller hurts our longterm goals... A big reason being because the Griz will want to dump Cardinal on us in the same deal.

The Emcee · Post #19 » by **The Emcee** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:17 am

Yes, but only because I absolutely love trades

But seriously, I have 100% faith that whatever Pritchard does is the right call.

Twith · Post #20 » by **Twith** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:22 am

If we could get Mike Miller and Nene for some combination of Jack, Webs, Frye, Serg, picks, and cash, I would love it.

However, thinking of how sad some of those guys would be to leave makes me not want to trade. That big piece Quick wrote about our chemistry makes me love some of these guys perhaps too much.