@**ALL TRADES HERE**@-the random trade proposal thread pt 3

[Immure]

why would we throw the picks in? OK i see NJ requiring one since they're taking on smush's contract. But indiana? C' mon JO is at an all time low in value and his contract is horrible, and rumor has it NJ was the one who backed off the JO VC trade due to NJ being concerned with JO's knee. So I would definetly throw a 2nd rounder at NJ, but Indy getting back more than enough; like I said before I actually like ricky.

[heat4life]

Cash would have to go NJ's way to buyout Parker. I am not sure Indiana trades away their "franchise" player even if he is damaged goods for now without getting a draft pick (which might be why NJ pulled from a JO for VC deal, we don't know that).

[heat4life]

Let's be clear here, I don't think anything is going to happen with JO because he makes around $21 millions a season. We already on the hook for $17 from Marion and $13 from Wade. Unless Marion goes on a deal for JO (I don't see that happening) then financially makes no sense. I was just playing along basically (hence my use of trade checker )

[radikalBaller]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/ ... _k_thomas/

we should go after him imo

[Immure]

dude i mean i know money has a lot to do with it, we're definetly going to be in the luxury next year and arison publicly said he doesn't want to be in it but that is an instant contender. And is only for a year and a half because both marion and JO coming off the books next year and JO definetly doesn't deserve a max contract. And marion might take 12-14 mil a season, which could bring us below the tax after just a year and a half. And we'll have a top 6 pick at least.

[GameTime_3]

I think for all trades that include a big man we have to send Blount out. Maybe using Haslem - Blount for expiring and Pick

[CRHeel94]

I could see us doing a dea with one of the two expiring contracts. I don't see Memphis moving Miller and/or Lowry unless they can package Brian Cardinal.

Ricky Davis for Lowry/Cardinal
JWill/RDavis for Miller/Cardinal

Here's an interesting one that assumes Nene will come back 100%.
JWill for Nene

[GameTime_3]

Whats the love with lowry??? Does anyone think lowry can be a starter in this league, because if not then why have him and banks as backups?

[heat4life]

Lowry has been VERY GOOD when he gets PT. At worst he could become Earl Watson IMO. For potential, his salary and judging what we currently have on our roster at PG, I would try to get him for sure.

[WeWantOGG]

Im with you on that I think Lowry will be an above average PG definitely and upgarde over Quinn and potentially Banks

[HEATVols865]

But then it would mean we would go with a big in the draft, and therefore if we don't get the #1 pick, we could end up with Hibbert...just say no to him. I'll take Wang Zhi-Zhi over him.

[WeWantOGG]

I agree with staying away from Hibbert and even Deandre Jordan but I am kind of warming up to Thabeet as long of course if Beasley isnt available

[GameTime_3]

If people hate on curry then i dont know how people will react to hibbert! Atleast curry can dunk the ball lol. Hibbert < Earl Barron

[WeWantOGG]

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[IndoorOutdoor]

We will make a trade-- Riley said he wants to rebuild quick how the hell do you do that if Marion doesn't opt out-- you have no money and now you lost 2 starters and have nothing to show for it.

[miamiballer]

j will, blount, smush for ben wallace, chris duhon

wallace
beasley/haslem
marion/wright
wade/cook
duhon/banks

[MartyConlonJr]

At this point I think the most realistic option is moving Blount (3 seasons) and J-Will and/or Ricky (expiring) for contracts 2 years in length. The trade off is that the same amount of money is basically on the books, but we aren't going to have major cap space this offseason anyway, so we can have major cap space the next year. We do this trade with a team that is could get under the cap significantly this offseason by making this trade, and is willing to take Blounts extra year to make it happen.

Example:

Miami trades:
Jason Williams
Ricky Davis
Mark Blount
Smush Parker
Marcus Banks

Miami receives:
Wally Szczerbiak
Chris Wilcox
Saer Sene
Delonte West

Miami's 08-09 Lineup:
C - Wilcox / Sene
PF - Marion / Haslem
SF - Szczerbiak / Wright
SG - Wade / Cook
PG - (Draft Pick) / West

08-09 cap (including draft pick at 3.5 mill + 1 cap hold): $62,441,181
09-10 cap (including draft pick at 3.7 mill, Marion extended at 12 mill per + 6 cap holds): $44,742,032

Seattle 08-09 Lineup:
C - Swift / Blount / Petro
PF - Collison / Draft Pick
SF - Green / Wilkins
SG - Durant / Banks
PG - Ridnour / Watson

08-09 cap (including draft pick at 3.5 mill, Swift resigned at 4.0 mill): $43,437,573

So Seattle has max cap space this coming offseason, possibly Gilbert Arenas? Either way, they are in cap saving mode now as a total rebuild while we are going more of a retooling route.

We have some decisions to make on Delonte West and Dorell Wright if we go this route, as only getting rid of them leaves us near max space.

[heat4life]

Let's just pick up Nick Fazekas from waivers and we are Dynasty.

[GameTime_3]

Why dont we try and steal ron artest away from the kings? If expring does the trick why not use ours? What the worst thing that can happen? he opts out and we lose him? Trade for him and if anything do a S&T in the offseason?

Brad Miller , Artest for Blount and Willaims 2- Second round picks
They save money on blount for miller and get expiring for artest and 2 second round picks?

[heat4life]

Spurs would send a 1st round pick as well. We can't trade ours.