1. Phil Jackson
2. Gregg Popovich
3. Pat Riley
4. Jerry Sloan
5. Byron Scott
6. Nate McMillan
7. Avery Johnson
8. Larry Brown
9, Don Nelson
10. Mike D'Antoni
11. Stan Van Gundy
12. Flip Saunders
13. Rick Adelman
14. George Karl
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Souvlaki wrote:Phil Jackson is the most over-rated coach in any professional sport.
I was going to say that Jackson is one of the most under-rated coach. Would you care to give any support for your statement.
Jackson has the highest winning percentage of any NBA coach in the league and I believe he is highest of all time.
He has won more rings than any other coach not named Aurebach. He is the only coach ever to win 3 or more with 2 different teams.
There are 2 myths to Jackson that lead people to make that statement.
The first is that he has only one because he has talent. That is one of the stupidest statements of all time. All coaches win because they have talent. Example A is Riley a very good coach having the worst record in the league. More importantly is example B, which is that all of the teams that Jackson took to championships did not win a championship before him DISPITE MAKING ALMOST NO MOVES TO IMPROVE THE ROSTER WHEN HE GOT THERE. The only major change to the teams from the year before was Jackson himself. That is an example of excellent coaching.
The 2nd myth is that Jackson is some sort of idiot Zen buddist that just manages egos. Perhaps the most over-rated part of Jackson is his people skills. The most under-rated by far is his x's and o's and his creativity. This is evident by his playoff success. The playoff's are when coaching is the most important because you play the same team seven times and it is all about adjustments. He is masterful at those. Jacksons teams have always been one of the top of the league defensively an other example of great coaching. Offence is skill, defense is will and coaching. He has also changed how he coaches from season to season depending on who is in his roaster. How he manages a game now is very different to how he managed the game with Shaq and with Jordan.
I am saying this as a Raps fan and not as a homer Laker by the way.
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Totally arbitrary and erroneous rankings:
1. Popovich, Spurs - terrific in-game coach, and loved by his players. No coach in the league is less likely to lose his locker room.
2. Jackson, Lakers - hard to knock a guy with roughly 75 championships.
3. Riley, Heat - has proven to be remarkably adaptable over the years.
4. Sloan, Jazz - sometimes rides his players too hard, and his 'doghouse player of the month' might be counterproductive at times. Still, hard to argue the results.
5. Saunders, Pistons - very good in-game, and one rarely hears of discord in Detroit.
6. Nelson, Warriors - how can you dislike a guy that thought that Manute Bol shooting threes?
7. Scott, Hornets - doesn't get much publicity, but I've loved him as a coach dating back to his time in New Jersey. Should by COY this season, IMO.
8. D'Antoni, Suns - instituted a terrific system in Phoenix, loses points for the moustache.
9. Johnson, Mavs - would have been higher last season, but some of his in-game substitutions and line-up choices have baffled me.
10. McMillan, Blazers - great teacher, deserves a lot of credit for convincing a very young squad that they could compete in the West this season. Even if the Blazers falter, should also receive COY consideration.
11. Van Gundy, Magic - if he could convince his guards to pass to Howard more frequently (no mean feat), he would jump a few spots.
12. Jordan, Wizards - also a master of baffling in-game substitutions at times, but deserves credit for keeping the team afloat with Arenas injured.
13. Adelman, Rockets - team has struggled more than expected, but still a very good coach.
14. Karl, Nuggets - when he's good, he's very, very good...but his ability to alienate his players over the long haul makes him a bit of a rental.
15. Mitchell, Raptors - rather awful X's and O's coach, but a terrific motivator; the Raptors play badly on occasion, but never quit in the way that typified even the good teams of the Wilkins/O'Neill eras.
16. Cheeks, 76ers - young team overachieved last season, which is definitely to his credit. Could be very successful in Philly, if they can add some talent.
17. Rivers, Boston - still think that he is a poor coach, but his team is too good to rank him in the bottom third.
18. Brown, Cavs - underwhelming for a guy whose team made the Finals last season.
19. Dunleavy, Clippers - not a huge fan, but he has a solid track record.
20. O'Brien, Pacers - don't think that his style is well-suited to the Pacers roster, and after a good start, it really shows.
21. Carlesimo, Sonics - even in defeat, he looks intelligent. That counts for something.
22. Iavaroni, Grizzlies - he'll be a solid coach...if he last long enough for the Grizzlies to rebuild.
23. Theus, Kings - uh, why not?
24. Boylan, Bulls - because I don't know enough about him to rank him any lower.
25. Wittman, Wolves - probably not his fault.
26. Frank, Nets - Jason Collins played 4500+ minutes over the past three seasons. How? Has also watched as a very talented team has slipped into the mire.
27. Woodson, Hawks - Atlanta is on the upswing, but frankly, their record should be better with that talent.
28. Vincent, Bobcats - partially because of a game earlier in the season against Toronto...the Raptors were missing Bosh and a couple other key players, and the Bobcats looked completely disinterested. Ended in a blowout, and their sixth or seventh consecutive loss.
29. Kyrstkowiak, Bucks - another talented team that should be much better. Locker room seems to be in disarray, and that falls on the coach.
30. Thomas, Knicks - ugh.
1. Popovich, Spurs - terrific in-game coach, and loved by his players. No coach in the league is less likely to lose his locker room.
2. Jackson, Lakers - hard to knock a guy with roughly 75 championships.
3. Riley, Heat - has proven to be remarkably adaptable over the years.
4. Sloan, Jazz - sometimes rides his players too hard, and his 'doghouse player of the month' might be counterproductive at times. Still, hard to argue the results.
5. Saunders, Pistons - very good in-game, and one rarely hears of discord in Detroit.
6. Nelson, Warriors - how can you dislike a guy that thought that Manute Bol shooting threes?
7. Scott, Hornets - doesn't get much publicity, but I've loved him as a coach dating back to his time in New Jersey. Should by COY this season, IMO.
8. D'Antoni, Suns - instituted a terrific system in Phoenix, loses points for the moustache.
9. Johnson, Mavs - would have been higher last season, but some of his in-game substitutions and line-up choices have baffled me.
10. McMillan, Blazers - great teacher, deserves a lot of credit for convincing a very young squad that they could compete in the West this season. Even if the Blazers falter, should also receive COY consideration.
11. Van Gundy, Magic - if he could convince his guards to pass to Howard more frequently (no mean feat), he would jump a few spots.
12. Jordan, Wizards - also a master of baffling in-game substitutions at times, but deserves credit for keeping the team afloat with Arenas injured.
13. Adelman, Rockets - team has struggled more than expected, but still a very good coach.
14. Karl, Nuggets - when he's good, he's very, very good...but his ability to alienate his players over the long haul makes him a bit of a rental.
15. Mitchell, Raptors - rather awful X's and O's coach, but a terrific motivator; the Raptors play badly on occasion, but never quit in the way that typified even the good teams of the Wilkins/O'Neill eras.
16. Cheeks, 76ers - young team overachieved last season, which is definitely to his credit. Could be very successful in Philly, if they can add some talent.
17. Rivers, Boston - still think that he is a poor coach, but his team is too good to rank him in the bottom third.
18. Brown, Cavs - underwhelming for a guy whose team made the Finals last season.
19. Dunleavy, Clippers - not a huge fan, but he has a solid track record.
20. O'Brien, Pacers - don't think that his style is well-suited to the Pacers roster, and after a good start, it really shows.
21. Carlesimo, Sonics - even in defeat, he looks intelligent. That counts for something.
22. Iavaroni, Grizzlies - he'll be a solid coach...if he last long enough for the Grizzlies to rebuild.
23. Theus, Kings - uh, why not?
24. Boylan, Bulls - because I don't know enough about him to rank him any lower.
25. Wittman, Wolves - probably not his fault.
26. Frank, Nets - Jason Collins played 4500+ minutes over the past three seasons. How? Has also watched as a very talented team has slipped into the mire.
27. Woodson, Hawks - Atlanta is on the upswing, but frankly, their record should be better with that talent.
28. Vincent, Bobcats - partially because of a game earlier in the season against Toronto...the Raptors were missing Bosh and a couple other key players, and the Bobcats looked completely disinterested. Ended in a blowout, and their sixth or seventh consecutive loss.
29. Kyrstkowiak, Bucks - another talented team that should be much better. Locker room seems to be in disarray, and that falls on the coach.
30. Thomas, Knicks - ugh.
**** your asterisk.
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