ARTEST TO THE _______?

-SDU- · Post #61 » by **-SDU-** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:40 pm

dont forget the suns are still in the artest deal too

AnDrOiDKing4 · Post #62 » by **AnDrOiDKing4** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:41 pm

-SDU- wrote:dont forget the suns are still in the artest deal too

Expirings and ATL's 1st ? :wink:

chriswebb86 · Post #63 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:41 pm

AnDrOiDKing4 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

the longer we hold out, the better offers will come on, Geoff knows his ****.

Yeah, I trust what Geoff does. If we end up making no more moves, its because nothing was there that would have helped us.

Shabi__5 · Post #64 » by **Shabi__5** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:42 pm

Aaron Brooks , Kirk Snyder , Francis and cash to buy out Francis for Artest.
Please let us have Artest.

skatesb16 · Post #65 » by **skatesb16** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:42 pm

-SDU- wrote:dont forget the suns are still in the artest deal too

Yeah, but it seems like we're the only ones that know it. Nobody else is mentioning us. I guess we must have literally just joined the race.

chriswebb86 · Post #66 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:42 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Nope, if the deal was at all true, Kings put a deadline on it (8 AM this morning) and the Magic passed on it. It's dead, according to a few people.

Yeah, I am not surprised it was dead. However, I think the Magic were focusing on Kurt Thomas and since they didnt get him I could see them going after Brad again and maybe offering more.

gsuteke · Post #67 » by **gsuteke** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:43 pm

You guys seem to be getting rid of everybody that isn't nailed down!

The Kings are in a Catch 22. If they don't trade Artest he isn't going to be open to sitting on the bench with a contrived injury because isn't he planning on opting out of his contract?

The Kings HAVE to move him it seems.

chriswebb86 · Post #68 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:43 pm

-SDU- wrote:dont forget the suns are still in the artest deal too

See I dont know if I like the deal. While the Hawks pick could be pretty good, I almost rather hold off since the Suns are in our Division.

chriswebb86 · Post #69 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:44 pm

Shabi__5 wrote:Aaron Brooks , Kirk Snyder , Francis and cash to buy out Francis for Artest.
Please let us have Artest.

I think this is a decent deal, but would hold out for Scola.

chriswebb86 · Post #70 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:46 pm

gsuteke wrote:You guys seem to be getting rid of everybody that isn't nailed down!

The Kings are in a Catch 22. If they don't trade Artest he isn't going to be open to sitting on the bench with a contrived injury because isn't he planning on opting out of his contract?

The Kings HAVE to move him it seems.

How are the Kings in a catch 22? They basically control the market with him right now or at least to a point. If they dont move him, the Kings keep an amazing player and have the upper hand to resign him. However, they also will have the ability to sign and trade him which could net a lot too. So until a team offers the Kings what they want, I dont see him leaving.

AnDrOiDKing4 · Post #71 » by **AnDrOiDKing4** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:46 pm

im fine with trading with the Suns, we wont compete in this division soon, might aswell let the Suns take out the Lakers.

Shabi__5 · Post #72 » by **Shabi__5** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:47 pm

chriswebb86 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think this is a decent deal, but would hold out for Scola.

We really need Scola , sorry.
I will be willing to add a 1st also , I heard you guys really like Brooks , I hope our gm isn't dumb and stubborn and will insist on not trading him if it can get us Artest , Brooks is good but we need Artest.

chriswebb86 · Post #73 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:47 pm

AnDrOiDKing4 wrote:im fine with trading with the Suns, we wont compete in this division soon, might aswell let the Suns take out the Lakers.

Yeah I guess thats true. The one thing I dont like is the fact they will have the upper hand at bringing him back, and yeah I just dont like that.

chriswebb86 · Post #74 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:50 pm

Shabi__5 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

We really need Scola , sorry.
I will be willing to add a 1st also , I heard you guys really like Brooks , I hope our gm isn't dumb and stubborn and will insist on not trading him if it can get us Artest , Brooks is good but we need Artest.

Well from some of what I have read, the Kings were almost willing to make a big splash at the draft last year by taking Brooks at 10. So, I think he is high on the Kings Radar. I think if we get a 1st plus Brooks things would be more likely too happen.

AnDrOiDKing4 · Post #75 » by **AnDrOiDKing4** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:51 pm

chriswebb86 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah I guess thats true. The one thing I dont like is the fact they will have the upper hand at bringing him back, and yeah I just dont like that.

I wouldnt be to sure on that, Ron is going to run his own fate, he is going to opt out and ask for 14 million a year as he already said very few teams that can offer that.

-SDU- · Post #76 » by **-SDU-** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:54 pm

bear in mind too that artest probably wont stat with the suns beyond this season

-SDU- · Post #77 » by **-SDU-** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:55 pm

suns offer would be the ATL 1st and the trade exception (we cant include any players with the trade exception

but we could throw in tucker in a side deal or pike / marks expirings?

AnDrOiDKing4 · Post #78 » by **AnDrOiDKing4** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:57 pm

-SDU- wrote:suns offer would be the ATL 1st and the trade exception (we cant include any players with the trade exception

but we could throw in tucker in a side deal or pike / marks expirings?

That would be a great deal IMO.

We wont have to take on anymore players and it might help us get some room to move Miller and KT.

chriswebb86 · Post #79 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:57 pm

AnDrOiDKing4 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I wouldnt be to sure on that, Ron is going to run his own fate, he is going to opt out and ask for 14 million a year as he already said very few teams that can offer that.

Yeah, I think he does opt out. If he does that team that trades for him has his Bird Rights and because of that can offer more money then anyone else.

chriswebb86 · Post #80 » by **chriswebb86** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:58 pm

-SDU- wrote:suns offer would be the ATL 1st and the trade exception (we cant include any players with the trade exception

but we could throw in tucker in a side deal or pike / marks expirings?

I wouldnt mind something like that.