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Post#101 » by 75totheMACCfund » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:24 pm

Mike: Boca Raton, FL: Why are the Bulls not going after Zach Randolph? I feel he would help their inside present

SportsNation Chad Ford: (2:19 PM ET ) Character issues. That's why a lot of teams are gun shy on Randolph.
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Post#102 » by David416 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:32 pm

my question to everyone on randolph is this, can you really afford to have 33% of your payroll going to 3 guys the next 2-3 years who are giving you very little if any production at all, if you don't want randolph don't you still have to try and get rid of 1 or all of these bad contracts. or are we just saying wait untill 2010 and say we will stink until then? will it be any easier for kohl and his cronies to move simmons, gadzuric or bell this summer?
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Post#103 » by Ruzious » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:21 pm

David416 wrote:my question to everyone on randolph is this, can you really afford to have 33% of your payroll going to 3 guys the next 2-3 years who are giving you very little if any production at all, if you don't want randolph don't you still have to try and get rid of 1 or all of these bad contracts. or are we just saying wait untill 2010 and say we will stink until then? will it be any easier for kohl and his cronies to move simmons, gadzuric or bell this summer?

The answer is that it makes no sense to get rid of a problem by creating a bigger problem.
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Post#104 » by David416 » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:55 pm

Randolph would create a bigger problem? instead we should keep overpaid bad players on the court because they don't create a problem in the locker room, :roll: our locker room which right now is a peaceful place to be right now, get used to losing with that mindset
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Post#105 » by blkout » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:52 pm

our locker room which right now is a peaceful place to be right now


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Post#106 » by DH34Phan » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:14 am

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Portland was 50-32 in 02/03 when Randolph played 17 mpg; Wallace and Pippen were both on that team. That team lost in the first round.

Portland was 41-41 in 03/04 when Randolph had his first 20/10 season. Pippen was gone and Wallace played half a season before being traded.

So anytime Randolph has had talent around him, the team has been good. In 02/03 he was a role player, and they won 50.

His role increased in 03/04, they lost a lot of key veterans, and they still managed to win 41 games in a loaded West.

After that, they blew it all up and tried to build around him, and failed miserably. After 03/04, he has been on some of the most dysfunctional teams in the NBA.

Put Zach in the right situation, and I think a team could succeed.
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Post#107 » by fam3381 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:47 am

DH34Phan wrote:So anytime Randolph has had talent around him, the team has been good. In 02/03 he was a role player, and they won 50.


If by "anytime" you mean "that one year when he was a young bench player" then yes. I don't think Zach would tolerate being a 20 mpg bench guy at this point though, and for $16 million per I'm not sure why you'd want that.

DH34Phan wrote:Put Zach in the right situation, and I think a team could succeed.


I could see Zach not being deadweight on a team with strong veteran leadership, but I have a hard time seeing Milwaukee being that situation.
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Post#108 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:37 pm

David416 wrote:Randolph would create a bigger problem? instead we should keep overpaid bad players on the court because they don't create a problem in the locker room, :roll: our locker room which right now is a peaceful place to be right now, get used to losing with that mindset

Let me try 1 last time. Randolph doesn't help you... on... the... court. Randolph doesn't help you with cap issues. And I never once mentioned locker room issues. If I thought he could make the team better, that may not bother me. Based on his past history, I DON'T THINK HE'D MAKE THE TEAM ANY BETTER.

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