Green to Houston

[revprodeji]

I see no reason to buy out an expiring contract. Just let them end.

I have a couple thoughts here, first of all, good trade for both teams. Green wanted to go back to Houston. Houston bought an audition and we will see what happens this summer.

MN gets a future pick which I like a lot
I actually like Snyder as a rotation guy, good hustle, good athletic ability. Probably will not play much, but we never know.

The Green vs Brewer talk is comical at best. Green has a very nice looking jumper, but he jacks shots. He is not smart enough to create spacing. So he cannot be a simple gunner ala Kapono. Also, he is not the hustle player that a Freddy is. Green simply makes too many mental mistakes in a game to be trusted in the rotation. Imagine how good of a player Green would be if he focused his athletic ability on rebounding and defending. RUnning the fast break and using his speed and jumping ability to get in the paint and get the foul. Instead he comes off screens and jacks shots. Makes a decent chunk, but is nothing of the player he could be. If that potential is ever touched he will be very good, but it has not happened yet.

Brewer is re-developing his jump shot. He is gaining weight. Those 2 things are his weak spot. His BBIQ, his defense, his hustle are great. I would rather have a player go to the weight room and get his jumper better then have to teach passion, brains and hustle.

[eloper]

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I have explicitly stated my agreement with that statement in this thread, I'm just illustrating that Green really needs to work on his shot selection.

And I'm just saying it's not as bad as people think it is I realize it looks horrible because he's shooting like **** here in Minnesota, but when he's given consistent playing time (as he was in Boston), the shots he's been taking go in at a high enough clip to justify him taking them. That's all I'm arguing, I'm not saying the shot selection is great, it's just not as bad as most Minnesota fans would be inclined to think from his performance this year.

[Basti]

Also, remember mid-second round picks are huge longshots to ever do anything in the NBA, and are often just used as the grease to make a trade work -- just like in this case. As another example, we owe a 2nd rounder because of adding Dupree a few years back.

They generally are just the grease to get deals done, but here's an example of how unlikely they are to produce a legitimate player. I listed the last 20 years worth of the 46th pick, which would today be mid second round. Thanks DraftExpress!

1988 2.21 Mavericks Morlon Wiley 6'4 185 Long Beach State 1966-09-24
1989 2.19 Suns Ricky Blanton 6'7 215 LSU 1966-04-21
1990 2.19 Pacers Kenny Williams 6'9 205 Elizabeth City State(DNP) 1969-06-09
1991 2.19 Suns Richard Dumas 6'7 200 Oklahoma State 1969-05-19
1992 2.19 Nuggets Robert Werdann 6'11 250 St. John's 1970-09-12
1993 2.19 Rockets Richard Petruska 6'10 260 UCLA 1969-01-25
1994 2.19 Bucks Voshon Lenard 6'4 205 Minnesota 1973-05-14
1995 2.17 Heat George Banks
1996 2.17 Trailblazers Marcus Brown 6'3 185 Murray State 1974-04-03
1997 2.18 Magic Eric Washington 6'4 190 Alabama 1974-03-23
1998 2.17 Timberwolves Andrae Patterson 6'9 238 Indiana 1975-11-12
1999 2.17 Knicks J.R. Koch
2000 2.17 Raptors DeeAndre Hulett
2001 2.18 Nuggets Ousmane Cisse
2002 2.18 Jazz Jamal Sampson 6'11 235 California 1983-05-15
2003 2.17 Nuggets Sani Becirovic
2004 2.17 Trailblazers Ha Seung Jin
2005 2.16 Pacers Erazem Lorbek
2006 2.16 Jazz Dee Brown 6'0 185 Illinois 1984-08-17
2007 2.16 Warriors Stephane Lasme 6'7 213 Massachusetts 1982-12-17

why did they trade Ha away? he was the 2nd coming of Wilt, Russel, Kareem, Hakeem and Shaq in ONE PERSON!!!!

[gold0259]

Al thornton would have been a much better pick, If Green would have been given brewers minutes it'd been a different story.
Brewer can lift weights all he wants, you either are a good shooter or not. WHat is brewer supposed to be like darvin ham or what. The guy is a joke has no talent whatsoever and he should be in the d league

[Klomp]

Al thornton would have been a much better pick, If Green would have been given brewers minutes it'd been a different story.
Brewer can lift weights all he wants, you either are a good shooter or not. WHat is brewer supposed to be like darvin ham or what. The guy is a joke has no talent whatsoever and he should be in the d league

Ever heard of this thing called defense? Didn't think so.

[casey]

you either are a good shooter or not

lol, what? If there's one thing in basketball that you can be poor at and improve upon it's shooting.

[big3_8_19_21]

I knew we were going to lose when I saw we were up 1 with 10.4 left and SAS had the ball.

[Basti]

I knew we were going to lose when I saw we were up 1 with 10.4 left and SAS had the ball.

wrong thread eh?

[big3_8_19_21]

:'(

[karch34]

We might want to keep those 2nds ourselves. (yeah, you're hearing this from the trade guy)

They work great for plucking the best players in the second round, and stashing them over in Europe. We're going to have a pretty full roster over the next two years, especially if we bring back our RFA's, and we probably have three guaranteed contracts next season coming in with the MIN, MIA, and BOS pick. Trading for a first for this year might make things a little dicey, and force us into moves we really don't want to do based solely on contract and roster space.

Our 2nd round picks are likely to be so high that they're almost going to be late 1st rounders anyway, just no guaranteed contract. The more I think about it it's unlikely we trade those to move up a few slots. I do think we take a European project with one of those picks in the 2nd though

[wolves_fan_82au]

2010 2nd now i hate this deal

[wolves_fan_82au]

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Our 2nd round picks are likely to be so high that they're almost going to be late 1st rounders anyway, just no guaranteed contract. The more I think about it it's unlikely we trade those to move up a few slots. I do think we take a European project with one of those picks in the 2nd though

i would perfer Jawai than euro's

hes stock has dropped a bit most have him early 2nd round

[revprodeji]

Al thornton would have been a much better pick, If Green would have been given brewers minutes it'd been a different story.
Brewer can lift weights all he wants, you either are a good shooter or not. WHat is brewer supposed to be like darvin ham or what. The guy is a joke has no talent whatsoever and he should be in the d league

Al thornton is at his ceiling right now and is older than Gomes. Brewer is a much better pick. Only Noah could be argued at that spot.

Green would have earned minutes if he was able to provide anything of value to the team.

Brewer tips balls on defense, gets his arms out and contributes in the passing lanes and on man-to-man

Brewer rebounds, offensively and defensively

Brewer pushes the ball and he finishes when he fills the lane.

Brewer feeds the post very, very well

Brewer sets screens and has a good concept of offensive ball movement

Green blows out candles and jacks jumpers off a screen.

The difference in contributions Brewer makes compared to Green in a game are crazy. Green is the type of player that makes coaches die young, Brewer is the type that makes their life easier.

Green is older than Corey

My argument is corey contributes in ways simple stats cannot show, but if you look at the FIC rating, Corey is ranked 267 and Green is 347



I like the future pick concept.

[deeney0]

Only Noah could be argued at that spot.

Not that I wouldn't take Corey all over again, but I don't think the book has been written on Brandon Wright.

[shrink]

I'm curious how much cash consideration MIN got too, because I think this deal slides the Rockets in under the lux too.

[Worm Guts]

Al thornton is at his ceiling right now and is older than Gomes

Thornton is more than a year younger than Gomes.

[revprodeji]

yea, my bad. I knew they were close but I accidently mixed the dates up.

[horaceworthy]

I'm glad to see Green go. Not because I disliked him, but because he had no future here and it's been obvious for a long time. He's got some talent, it's nice to see him go to a place where he might get a chance.

He's lost out there most of the time, and I was disappointed by his jump shot (although looking back on his splits, it seems like he's really only had 3-4 months where he shot well, the rest of them have been ordinary-to-poor). Still, he came in and gave us a nice spark a couple times, and he definitely got a raw deal here. Best of luck to him in Houston, and that board just got a solid poster as well, in GG5.

[theGreatRC]

I too will miss GeraldGreen5 and his posts trying to convince me that GG is a good player. Since I don't follow Houston much(Only playoffs), you should drop by some time and give us updates on the old wolf.

[eloper]

Thanks for the kind words guys, but no worries, I'll still be around from time to time. Minnesota still has a bunch of guys I'll be rooting for, namely Jefferson, Foye, and Telfair.