Devin Harris = Allen Iverson ?

Da big3 · Post #1 » by **Da big3** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:33 pm

Ok may be not as in ppg, but he defentitely plays with the same style, he can knock down jumpers and drives to the bucket? im not saying hes gonna be AI, but he certainely plays the same dam way

KB24VC15 · Post #2 » by **KB24VC15** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:38 pm

not too sure about that, i see devin being a better distrubitor than AI but heck skys the limit with devin no doubt

VCRJKidd15 · Post #3 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:55 pm

ummm no god noo just no

jeff1624 · Post #4 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:14 am

They play nothing alike... A more valid comparison IMHO is Tony Parker

Da big3 · Post #5 » by **Da big3** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:17 am

jeff1624 wrote:They play nothing alike... A more valid comparison IMHO is Tony Parker

we cant say they dont play alike, can we agree that hes a como of both, because AI and Devin have driving abilities as well as speed

jeff1624 · Post #6 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:25 am

So does Tony Parker yet his game and Iversons are nothing alike..

etopn23 · Post #7 » by **etopn23** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:30 am

Dude, how are you going to compare Devin Harris to Allen Iverson?

If you're expecting him to become and MVP caliber player someday, then be prepared to be disappointed.

Da big3 · Post #8 » by **Da big3** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:34 am

etopn23 wrote:Dude, how are you going to compare Devin Harris to Allen Iverson?

If you're expecting him to become and MVP caliber player someday, then be prepared to be disappointed.

no, no i was comparing his style of play speed and driving in

Crizlassic · Post #9 » by **Crizlassic** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:35 am

Why do people feel the need to always compare players? If there's no obvious similarities, just don't do it.

SLIMM07 · Post #10 » by **SLIMM07** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:35 am

etopn23 wrote:Dude, how are you going to compare Devin Harris to Allen Iverson?

If you're expecting him to become and MVP caliber player someday, then be prepared to be disappointed.

I don't think anyone is saying that, I think people just expect good things to come from having Devin on the team

MrDollarBills · Post #11 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:11 am

Devin Harris is our starting point guard, who gives a CRAP about old *** Allen Iverson.

Pugsley_2491 · Post #12 » by **Pugsley_2491** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:21 am

I think Devin Harris will be the first, Devin Harris...

WiLL 2 iLL · Post #13 » by **WiLL 2 iLL** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:24 am

If you compare ne1 to AI it should be Monta Ellis. He plays just like AI.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #14 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:13 am

WiLL 2 iLL wrote:If you compare ne1 to AI it should be Monta Ellis. He plays just like AI.

Bingo!

thierry · Post #15 » by **thierry** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:10 am

AI is one of a kind, you're disgracing him by comparing Devin Harris to him.

SaintofKillers · Post #16 » by **SaintofKillers** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:51 am

Okay, this is probably the 454,839th post I've seen that suggests Harris can shoot. In college yes, but for some unexplained reason his jumper disappeared once he was drafted. As a matter of fact, he's even worse than Kidd. His averages are better because he can get to the line practically at will and shoots few three pointers... which are almost always squeaky clean looks because no one respects his perimeter game.

If I would have to name a current player he resembles the most I would have to say Tony Parker. Both have lightning quick first step and blinding speed in the open court, although Harris is tons more athletic, a superior defender, waaay worse shooter and playmaker (and that's saying something) and also not as good at finishing as Parker. Another good comparison would be Kevin Johnson, but without the perimeter game. Actually, KJ is the closest play-alike, the more I think about it.

shaw-xx · Post #17 » by **shaw-xx** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:36 am

Devin shoots better this season. He isn't a shooter but shoots a little better than Kidd right now.

SaintofKillers · Post #18 » by **SaintofKillers** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:55 pm

I've rarely seen Harris knock a jump shot off the dribble or with any degree of difficulty; it's basically a set shot or something he was dared to shoot with a considerable amount of time and space. I'm not asking for the world, but guys with spotty jumpers like Maggette, Hughes, et. al. they are never left open as much as Harris which I think speaks volumes and how much they regard his ability from the perimeter.

Anyway I'm straying away from the point I was trying to make which is, if associating jump shots with Kidd would conjure laughter and derision, why not do the same with Harris, who's arguably worse or equal to Kidd in this area?

shaw-xx · Post #19 » by **shaw-xx** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:05 pm

To compare to himself, Devin now at least can hit those open shots including 3s and has decent FG% just below 50%. I would only laugh at his bended legs when shooting. Kidd has lower FG% than 40%. When him in last game, I found myself praying him not to take the long jumpers. He didn't shoot bad last night though and 6 attempts were nothing but fine.

SaintofKillers · Post #20 » by **SaintofKillers** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:27 pm

shaw-xx wrote:To compare to himself, Devin now at least can hit those open shots including 3s

Yes, but that's like saying Dirk plays defense now which is true, but that only means he went from a sieve to mediocre.

shaw-xx wrote:and has decent FG% just below 50%.

Field goal percentage takes into account all FG attempts inside the arc so the averages can be skewed by tendencies like in the case of Harris who prefers to slash first, second, and shoot jumpers third. You have to divide his attempts in three different categories: 1) 5-feet within the rim, 2) freethrow line extended, and 3) beyond the arc. A quick look at NBA's Hot Spots produced this:

Around the rim/5-feet out - 135/250 (54%)
Perimeter - 27/74 (36%) Kidd is 38% this year
Outside - 25/70 (35%)