Ben Gordon Anyone?

[corwin]

Ben Gordon will be a RFA next year. Having traded for Larry Hughes, re-signing Gordon for much over the MLE will put Chicago over the luxury tax & I think they'll be reluctant to do this. He can't IMO play PG & may be a little undersized to be the starting SG. However, with Miller, Lou Williams, & Gordon as a 3 guard rotation, Philly would be much improved offensively. Of course, this means that Iguodala would start at SF, the position I feel he belongs at anyway. Thoughts on using some of our cap space on him?

[Salvistine24]

I do think they could use a scorer at the 2 but only if they plan on moving either thad/iggy for a big time pf (which i dont forsee happening)...it would be tough to sign a guy with as much talent as ben and make him a bench player (as well, hes been a 6th man in chicago and i doubt he would want to sign anywhere that doesnt see him as a starter considering this will probably be his big contract)...

now if u plan on making thad a full time pf, i think that has disaster all over it for the future...i think gordon only fits if iggy or thad is gone and that isnt going to happen...

[Philly's Best]

No problem with signing Gordon if they find a big pg for Miller to groom. I am not as worried about the PF position as most as Thad may be our PF of the future. At 19 years old he still has time to develop physically. He seems to be more in the mold of Marion or Stoudemire which I am fine with. I think he can continue to develop a "low post" game and we will be fine. We need "players". Gordon can ball. Lou Will can be our Barbosa.

Of course that being said I think we need to explore all of our other options first.

[freshie2]

How much do you spend on Gordon? Many people are reluctant to re-sign Iguodala to a market deal that would be similar to what Gordon would seek. You have to look at him, but he wouldn't be my main target.

[STChaser]

I think Iguodala HAS to be part of this team's future. As much as he frustrates me at times with his whining, I still think he's shown great improvement. I DO want him at SG though, with Thad at SF. I think Iguodala has developed enough of a midrange J to remain at the 2. I also think we'd miss his defense if he were to leave. Both Iguodala and Thad are extremely good defenders and that shouldn't be overlooked.

STChaser

[Philly's Best]

Agree that he wouldn't be my main target either, but I don't think he would be a horrible fall back. Chicago probably won't sign both him and Deng. Based on the market Gordon and Iggy will probably both be in the low to mid 60 milion area. Anything higher and I woould pass on both.

[CPops57]

I'm not necessarily against adding Ben Gordon, I'd just prefer settling what happens at PF before adding another player at a position the team is currently pretty loaded at.

[IggyTheBEaST]

Id be down with signing him but 2 problems:

-PF is our top Priority,-PG would be second, SG is third


-He will command too much $

[CinciSixersFan]

I'm not necessarily against adding Ben Gordon, I'd just prefer settling what happens at PF before adding another player at a position the team is currently pretty loaded at.

I think that's probably the best way to look at it, although I don't know that we're necessarily loaded at combo guards. Willie is a poor man's ben Gordon, but LouWill is more of scoring PG. But Swing guys, yes, we have plenty.

But it will all start with what Ed decides to do in the draft. Assuming he doesn't make a trade, we either draft a PG to eventually replace Andre or we take a PF. If we were to take a PF I think Gordon would be a great signing. He would add shooting, depth, and flexibility to the run and gun team we are becoming.

PG-Miller, LouWill
SG- Gordon, Green
SF- Iggy, Carney
PF-Thad, J. Smith, Rookie
C-Dalembert

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

We're not "loaded" at SG, we're crowded with "SG Prospects"

To be loaded, means to have depth at the position. We have the worst 2 guards in the NBA. Unless Iggy shifts to the 2 where he belongs.

[CinciSixersFan]

Don't get me wrong, we don't have a bonafied, true SG on the roster, but we have a bunch of undersized guys who can score the ball. Gordon would be more of the same, but would actually be talentend, and to your point, not a prospect.

Truly, I wouldn't have a problem finding a way to add a true SG in the offseason.

I heard whispers of Michael Redd being shopped around the deadline

[SendEm]

Thad is best used as a SF that has the advantage of being able to abuse other SF, SG. and PG in the post.

Being that the Sixers already have Thad it will not be in their best interest to have a small SG because that will nullify a bit of Thad's effectiveness if the Sixers have a short SG on the court in Ben Gordan. In the future it would be best if we have a sharp shooting SG with some height like Kevin Martin and a PG that can make plays and hit **** from long distance, Lou Williams might develop into that even though he isn't nearly the natural playmaker that I have in mind.

When you add in That's post up ability at the 3 along with an additional post up player out of either the PF or C we will have a really solid team. If both the C and PF could play down low that would be the makings of a real contender.

It's not unrealistic of the Sixers to draft a Kevin Martin or Carlos Boozer because both were obtained far outside of the lottery. I just hope that Stephanski has a great eye for talent along with no attachment to players because Igoudala has to go.

[IggyTheBEaST]

I agreed with your post until the last line. What is all this Igoudala has to go $h*t. Who cares if he isnt a number 1, should we dump every player who isnt a superstar? He is arguably our best player right now and there is no reason to trade him unless we could get a player of Boozers Caliber, which imo, we cannot.

[SendEm]

BTW I think that Larry Hughes has diminished Gordan's value to Chicago to the point were Chicago might simply let Gordan walk...Ben Gordan is one of the main reasons why Iggy didn't sign the deal he was offered. While Iggy turned down $57 million/5 Gordan wanted $70 million/5. If Gordan signs somewhere for $43 million/4 that would have to effect Iggy in a major way. I believe that Gordan will set the tone for free agency especially if his deal becomes public knowledge before any of the other free agents ink...

[corwin]

I can see that there isn't a consensus here. I think Gordon will have to take less money than he expects. This happened to Wilcox & Darko recently. I'm hoping Ed goes big in the draft & I sort of expect there to be someone like Love, Ibaka, or Thompson available from 10 to 17. IMO the team really needs a starting SG because I believe Iguodala is more suited for SF & that Young can swing between SF & PF. I only worry about his size & defense. Still Andrew Toney was about the same size.

[SendEm]

I agreed with your post until the last line. What is all this Igoudala has to go $h*t. Who cares if he isnt a number 1, should we dump every player who isnt a superstar? He is arguably our best player right now and there is no reason to trade him unless we could get a player of Boozers Caliber, which imo, we cannot.

He has to go because of floor balance. This is similar to being a structural engineer and a cost evaluator etc... Thad is obviously potentially something special. He is what I consider a building block but NOT a foundation like Dwight Howard, Lebron James and Chris Paul.

Iggy is more like decorative piece.
Willie Green and Carney are more like engineering concerns/problems/damage that need to be addressed. Right now the Sixers have more concerns/problems/damage and decorative piece type players than they have building block & foundation type players.

Now with that said, one teams decorative piece and garbage can be another teams building block. Joe Dumars has proven that with the Pistons team that he assembled.

Iguodala and Thad do not compliment each other because Iguodala is not a pure shooter. If a team has a SF like Thad that is most effective near the basket then that means that your SG and PG have to be REALLY good shooters to offset a team having a frontcourt that takes inside shots.

Now if this team has a C or PF that can play the perimeter like a Dirk Nowitzki and Rasheed Wallace then the SG could be like Iguodala and be a midrange shooter therefor changing Iguodala from a "decorative piece" to a "building block" because he now fits.

Dalambert
Boozer
Thad
Iguodala
Miller
^^^^^^^ That team would suck because everyone on that team's best ability is making baskets from close range and not forcing a defense to extend making it more difficult for everyone to score.

Dalembert
Boozer
Thad
Kevin Martin
Jose Calderon
^^^^^^ That team might not be in the top half of the league in defense but they might just end up leading the league in scoring and field goal percentage because the floor is balanced. Their record would be better as well.

[Salvistine24]

i will say i love sendems analysis bc he is spot on and gives great insight to some of the teams strengths nd weaknesses...im not the biggest of iggy fans but the aspect i think sendem usually dismisses or doesnt talk about nearly enough are the other assets such as defense and rebounding which iggy brings which are above avg in comparison to other sgs...

i agree whole heartedly that andre is a terrible fit next to thad and that thad might be the better long term building block on the offensive end but i think why ppl want to keep iggy is bc of the "extra" things he brings such as defense, strength on the defensive end, rebounding, and sometimes extremely good passing...

however i do find it extremely painful to watch him one on one try to break down defenders and i hate his midrange pull up/fadeaway jumper...

im not opposed to dealing him in the right deal and i think he holds more value around the league then you would believe and i agree as an offensive player, kevin martin is a better fit but as a whole especially with some defeciencies of sam miller evans and lou will, we need andre for those other aspects he brings

[76erinSJ]

Dalambert
Boozer
Thad
Iguodala
Miller

That would be a top 4 team in the East this year wit Carney Green Evens Williams Smith and Ollie off the bench. All we would need is a 3 point shooter.

[wow444]

Dalambert
Boozer
Thad
Iguodala
Miller

That would be a top 4 team in the East this year wit Carney Green Evens Williams Smith and Ollie off the bench. All we would need is a 3 point shooter.

+1 Another thing that is overlooked is that players become better outside shooters as they get more experience and work on their mechanics. Maggete had trouble making 15 footers as a rookie. I think that it can be realistically projected that these end up being the 3pt% over the next couple of years.

Dala 31.3 -> 33.3
LW 36.6 -> 38+
WG 33.3 -> 35
TY 25 -> 35
JS 22 -> 33

Not bad even if they don't add a shooter which of course they will.

[sixersinsider]

Ben gordon would be a nice piece to add to the sixers ......he wants the ball at criticall moments ...a money player...I'd prefer him in crunch time over... .....deng ......the sixers would be fourtunate to grab him at 10 mila year.The sixers are being built to run..tey turned down a deal for.. bonzi wells and filler.(bonzi would have willed us to the playoffS) For.. green ..carney ..giracek..
We will not make the playoffs this year.
there will be no powerforward this summer unless its a sighn and trade . Throw the money at gordon before( memphis miami sac seattle)gets at him