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wrong.
I might be wrong, but instead of just replying with "wrong" can you atleast explain why you believe I am wrong? I would like an explanation.
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I might be wrong, but instead of just replying with "wrong" can you atleast explain why you believe I am wrong? I would like an explanation.
this is directly from Henry Abbott's Friday Bullets
I have had some questions about Brent Barry. After he waits out his thirty days, can he still re-join the Spurs and be eligible for the playoff roster? The answer from ESPN's people who know about such things is that, as someone who was waived before March 1, he is eligible to be on the playoff roster of any team he might sign with.
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The Hypnotoad wrote:Thats BS if he comes back to the Spurs. Same as the Stackhouse situation only the Spurs didn't open their big mouths.
But other than the general possibility of being waived by the recieving team and returning to the original team - it's not.
This person put it well from the GB:
YiYaoYue wrote:I think the difference here was that brent barry wasn't asked by the spurs to be bought out as part of the trade, while nets deal was systematically done so that jerry stackhouse would be bought out instantly so he could rejoin dallas. Spurs just happen to be lucky enough that seattle did another trade before trade deadline so that they can get brent barry earlier.
It also wasn't publicly brought up.
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More info on Houston pursuit of Barry:
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=5856223&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1
Rockets Offer Barry Contract
Last Edited: Friday, 22 Feb 2008, 3:02 PM CST
Created: Friday, 22 Feb 2008, 2:48 PM CST
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HOUSTON -- Within minutes of the Seattle SuperSonics releasing guard Brent Barry Friday, the Houston Rockets were on the phone with Barry's agent, Arn Tellem, offering a two-year deal.
"We are offering the maximum allowed on a two-year contract," said Daryl Morey, Rockets General Manager. "We are in full pursuit."
And not just in the figurative sense. The Rockets are literally going after Barry.
"Coach (Rick) Adelman and I plan to go to San Antonio and meet with Brent," Morey said. "We want to give him the full treatment."
Barry's father, Rick, played for the Rockets during the 1978-1979 season and is a member of the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. His brother, Jon, played for the Rockets for two years and is currently an NBA television analyst.
Brent Barry is a 13-year veteran. Including this season Barry played for the San Antonio Spurs for four years, helping them to two NBA titles. He was traded to Seattle Wednesday in the deal that sent Kurt Thomas to the Spurs. He was included to make the deal work financially and was released 48 hours later.
The Spurs would like to re-sign him. The Phoenix Suns, L.A. Lakers, and Boston Celtics have also expressed interest.
"We think Brent can be a key piece in our playoff run if we can get him," Morey said. "We think he can help us in a significant way."
The first day Barry can sign with any team is Tuesday.
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=5856223&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=6.1.1
Rockets Offer Barry Contract
Last Edited: Friday, 22 Feb 2008, 3:02 PM CST
Created: Friday, 22 Feb 2008, 2:48 PM CST
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HOUSTON -- Within minutes of the Seattle SuperSonics releasing guard Brent Barry Friday, the Houston Rockets were on the phone with Barry's agent, Arn Tellem, offering a two-year deal.
"We are offering the maximum allowed on a two-year contract," said Daryl Morey, Rockets General Manager. "We are in full pursuit."
And not just in the figurative sense. The Rockets are literally going after Barry.
"Coach (Rick) Adelman and I plan to go to San Antonio and meet with Brent," Morey said. "We want to give him the full treatment."
Barry's father, Rick, played for the Rockets during the 1978-1979 season and is a member of the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame. His brother, Jon, played for the Rockets for two years and is currently an NBA television analyst.
Brent Barry is a 13-year veteran. Including this season Barry played for the San Antonio Spurs for four years, helping them to two NBA titles. He was traded to Seattle Wednesday in the deal that sent Kurt Thomas to the Spurs. He was included to make the deal work financially and was released 48 hours later.
The Spurs would like to re-sign him. The Phoenix Suns, L.A. Lakers, and Boston Celtics have also expressed interest.
"We think Brent can be a key piece in our playoff run if we can get him," Morey said. "We think he can help us in a significant way."
The first day Barry can sign with any team is Tuesday.
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Houston will make sense. I mean, i understand his family is entrenched in San Antonio, but it's not like he's moving away for 5 years. Again, who else thinks Barry only have at most 2 years in his tank? Houston make sense because they're close to San Antonio. He don't have to move the family. And Cleveland make sense because even from a family standpoint, he'll probably sign a one year contract wherever he goes anyways. I'm sure there'll be an option for 2nd year and my guess is it's going to be Player Option.
And to reply to what someone said about us playing 6th stringers like Jeremy Richardson, they're not being played consistently. Should that be what Barry wants? to play 3 minutes every other game? A player like Barry would want to get consistent minutes. You don't ever see a team play 12 guys on their roster consistently especially when it goes to late in the season where teams are gearing up for the playoffs.
Bonner was nice early but even then, he's not getting his minutes anymore because the rotation is cut down. fact is, Bowen plays 30 minutes. Manu will play 30 and possibly even more once we get into the palyoffs. that leaves like 30-35 minutes divided between 2 players. 20 of those will go to Finley (the starter). and the remaining goes to Udoka who has won a rotation job. There's no guarantee Barry can get consistent playing time if he comes back.
Don't put yourself on the shoes of a Spurs fan and just think of what we want. look at it from Barry's perspective about everything. I'll bet anyone here 50 bucks that Barry don't return to san antonio. and if i'm right, you can just give me half of it. 25 bucks. but if i'm wrong and barry returns, i pay you 50. who's gonna take me on the bet?
And to reply to what someone said about us playing 6th stringers like Jeremy Richardson, they're not being played consistently. Should that be what Barry wants? to play 3 minutes every other game? A player like Barry would want to get consistent minutes. You don't ever see a team play 12 guys on their roster consistently especially when it goes to late in the season where teams are gearing up for the playoffs.
Bonner was nice early but even then, he's not getting his minutes anymore because the rotation is cut down. fact is, Bowen plays 30 minutes. Manu will play 30 and possibly even more once we get into the palyoffs. that leaves like 30-35 minutes divided between 2 players. 20 of those will go to Finley (the starter). and the remaining goes to Udoka who has won a rotation job. There's no guarantee Barry can get consistent playing time if he comes back.
Don't put yourself on the shoes of a Spurs fan and just think of what we want. look at it from Barry's perspective about everything. I'll bet anyone here 50 bucks that Barry don't return to san antonio. and if i'm right, you can just give me half of it. 25 bucks. but if i'm wrong and barry returns, i pay you 50. who's gonna take me on the bet?
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Good point co...I still think Barry can be useful on this team...granted he probably won't be used as much as other teams. The angle I look at is bassically that Barry is already comfortable in the locker room with this team. Basically, if I am him, I look at these few things... I already know what I have to do here, I know what's expected of me. If I go elsewhere, its a new system to learn, which I enjoy, but its also a new group of people I need to adjust to. In San Anto, I have a lot of friends and get along really well with my teammates. Yeah, I can never really believe Coach Pop since he's always thinking of trading me. However, I won't have a mid salary anymore that will be lucrative in trade deals. My family is happy is San Anto and I won't have to move them around and still get to see them a lot if I sign with the Spurs. It may mean a few less minutes on the floor, but it means more time with the family AND a good chance at another ring.
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Some more on Barry's situation out of Houston:
Feb. 24, 2008, 5:46AM
NBA NOTEBOOK
Brother could sway deal
Rockets making free-agent recruit a family affair
By JONATHAN FEIGEN
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Now that he is no longer a player, Jon Barry did not know he could be so popular.
When he arrives at Toyota Center tonight, the Rockets might have serfs carry him to his seat, bring cool beverages and fan him with palm leaves if he so desires.
His brother, Brent Barry, will become a free agent Tuesday, having been put on waivers by the SuperSonics after his trade to Seattle on Thursday. The Rockets, Suns, Mavericks, Spurs and Celtics are chasing Brent, working him like a 7-2 McDonald's All-American choosing between teams in the Final Four.
But along with the last-minute call that sent Jon Barry to Houston to do tonight's game for ESPN, Jon's phone has been ringing more than general managers' on the night before the trade deadline, with the Rockets especially reaching out to their former guard with all kinds of ties to the Rockets coaching staff.
"I'm going to become a player agent for all the calls I'm getting," Jon said. "Wherever he goes, I'm getting a cut. I was just on the phone with him. He's mulling his options. It's a hard decision to make. He knows how much Houston wants him. They've shown great interest, obviously. He is bouncing teams off me. He has a couple days. He's mulling it over."
The Rockets have made their appeal to Jon Barry because of his good feelings about the Rockets organization after his brief stay in Houston and for coach Rick Adelman after his successful run under Adelman with the Kings.
They have spoken to Brent several times, too. But Brent calls Jon for his opinion, so the Rockets have made sure to pitch the idea of Brent following Jon and their father Rick in the family tradition of ending their careers in Houston.
"Rick (Adelman) was the first coach that really gave me an opportunity in the league," Jon Barry said. "I think the world of Rick. He's a tremendous coach with a hell of a system. He's a great coach, as people in Houston did not think a few months ago. It would be a good system for Brent and playing with Yao (Ming) and T-Mac (Tracy McGrady) is tremendous.
"What makes it a very tough decision is the parity in the West. Everybody's got a shot. It makes it that much more difficult. He wants to win. All these teams have a chance. He appreciates that people want him. He feels like he's back in college on a recruiting tour, except this time, you can pay and not get in trouble."
In the NBA, even brothers with influence can be greased, as Jon discovered.
"I've become a Rockets recruiter," Jon Barry said. "(Rockets president) Tad Brown said I'm a lifetime Lexus Lounge member if I can get him. It's a tough situation for him. He feels indebted to San Antonio, where he won a couple titles, had a lot years there.
"He's bouncing stuff off me. It comes down to where he feels really wanted and will play a pivotal role. His role was not that huge in San Antonio. He wants a pivotal role on a team with a chance to do something special. The teams
Feb. 24, 2008, 5:46AM
NBA NOTEBOOK
Brother could sway deal
Rockets making free-agent recruit a family affair
By JONATHAN FEIGEN
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
Now that he is no longer a player, Jon Barry did not know he could be so popular.
When he arrives at Toyota Center tonight, the Rockets might have serfs carry him to his seat, bring cool beverages and fan him with palm leaves if he so desires.
His brother, Brent Barry, will become a free agent Tuesday, having been put on waivers by the SuperSonics after his trade to Seattle on Thursday. The Rockets, Suns, Mavericks, Spurs and Celtics are chasing Brent, working him like a 7-2 McDonald's All-American choosing between teams in the Final Four.
But along with the last-minute call that sent Jon Barry to Houston to do tonight's game for ESPN, Jon's phone has been ringing more than general managers' on the night before the trade deadline, with the Rockets especially reaching out to their former guard with all kinds of ties to the Rockets coaching staff.
"I'm going to become a player agent for all the calls I'm getting," Jon said. "Wherever he goes, I'm getting a cut. I was just on the phone with him. He's mulling his options. It's a hard decision to make. He knows how much Houston wants him. They've shown great interest, obviously. He is bouncing teams off me. He has a couple days. He's mulling it over."
The Rockets have made their appeal to Jon Barry because of his good feelings about the Rockets organization after his brief stay in Houston and for coach Rick Adelman after his successful run under Adelman with the Kings.
They have spoken to Brent several times, too. But Brent calls Jon for his opinion, so the Rockets have made sure to pitch the idea of Brent following Jon and their father Rick in the family tradition of ending their careers in Houston.
"Rick (Adelman) was the first coach that really gave me an opportunity in the league," Jon Barry said. "I think the world of Rick. He's a tremendous coach with a hell of a system. He's a great coach, as people in Houston did not think a few months ago. It would be a good system for Brent and playing with Yao (Ming) and T-Mac (Tracy McGrady) is tremendous.
"What makes it a very tough decision is the parity in the West. Everybody's got a shot. It makes it that much more difficult. He wants to win. All these teams have a chance. He appreciates that people want him. He feels like he's back in college on a recruiting tour, except this time, you can pay and not get in trouble."
In the NBA, even brothers with influence can be greased, as Jon discovered.
"I've become a Rockets recruiter," Jon Barry said. "(Rockets president) Tad Brown said I'm a lifetime Lexus Lounge member if I can get him. It's a tough situation for him. He feels indebted to San Antonio, where he won a couple titles, had a lot years there.
"He's bouncing stuff off me. It comes down to where he feels really wanted and will play a pivotal role. His role was not that huge in San Antonio. He wants a pivotal role on a team with a chance to do something special. The teams
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Well, he already knows what his role will be here. If I were a player interested in minutes I'd be sure to stay the hell away from D'Antoni and his 5 player rotation. I truly think Houston and Boston would be his best fits. With Boston offering the better chance to get another ring.
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johnnyjohnnyjohnny wrote:Well, he already knows what his role will be here. If I were a player interested in minutes I'd be sure to stay the hell away from D'Antoni and his 5 player rotation. I truly think Houston and Boston would be his best fits. With Boston offering the better chance to get another ring.
He's coming to us guys. Really. I don't think he wants to go to the east.(boston or cleveland) Cavs? They have alot of wing players already in newly acquired delonte, szerbiak, and also booby, damon jones. Barry's importance will be ignored since they already made a blockbuster trade to begin with. And i think they're in the luxury tax too... with big bens salary.
Secondly, Why would he go to boston with three studded superstars plus rondo. You really think Ray allen or paul pierce need some shooting help? That'll be San antonio allover again.
After how you guy's treated barry, in his diminished role, and trading him to lowly sonics, i don't think he wants to come back to a team that didn't want him, unless you offer more. At this stage, i don't think money is what he's looking for. He wants to contribute.
So it really comes down to mavs and rockets. Mavs already acquired a legendary player, and they've got plenty of wing shooting guards already i think. Jkidd, jason terry, stackhouse, josh howard, emergence of jj barea, and even dirk plays at the wing sometimes. They also are getting a Center, maybe magloire. So they might not have a roster spot. How is he going to get space in that lineup? Aside from the fact that they're already in the luxury tax, do they really want to worsen it?
Rockets really need him and our GM showed interest off the bat. We're in need of shooters, and t'mac really doesn't have a backup since bonzi left. Having jon barry on our side certainly helps too.
So the smart move for brent barry, is to come to houston rockets. He'll play a pivotal role for us, if he really wants that opportunity. We've got a big gaping hole for a player like him since bonzi left.
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You make it sound like the Spurs weren't using him at all...last I recall he was actually contributing quite a bit to the team. He was averaging nearly 19 minutes per game and was averaging just a bit over 7 ppg. I thought he had a pretty good role with the team. I still think his best fit is with the Spurs honestly.