Nate is grinding ROY down! 45 min last night

waverider · Post #1 » by **waverider** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:14 pm

Nate is gonna kill this guy. Nate is being stupid IMO about this. Last night when we were losing WITH ROY in why not just take him OUT and rest him and let the other guys get some burn. Roy played 2 games at the allstar weekend, heo was sick, we have a ton of games coming up and he plays 45 min is a total losing cause and was in at the end! I simply do not understand what he thinks he is doing, he is grinding Brandon down IMO.

Maybe its his ego and a problem from his playing days as he just hates to lose so much and he sees Roy as himself. And what about his heel issue that we've been fortunate with so far but could flare up with TOO MUCH play.

Bottom line : Wake up Nate and get a clue. You are now a COACH that yes wants to win but in addition needs to consider the long term welfare of his players! especially the core of your team!

Wizenheimer · Post #2 » by **Wizenheimer** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:31 pm

I've been concerned about Roy's minutes for a while now.

At a certain point (about 3 games ago), Nate needs to accept that the playoffs are out of reach and start assigning playing time more vor development and evaluation. Two things that this season was supposed to be about anyway.

trentsdad · Post #3 » by **trentsdad** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:44 pm

The playoffs were gone when we didn't make a trade like every other contender in the west. It is now time to save Roy and start trying other options. Give Sergio minutes, give Josh a few opportunities to show what he has or doesn't have.

I want to see us win as much as anyone but Roy has not been the Roy of earlier in the season and these extra minutes are a big part of that, in fact in many cases he has hurt us more than helped.

Lets learn what we really have here to make sure we make the right decisions during the off season

PS-If someone can explain the Green trade please do, because I see absolutely no reason for doing it

Telfaire · Post #4 » by **Telfaire** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:39 pm

Nate needs to learn how to win without his superstar on the floor - create new plays, for example?

Am I wrong, or was Nate also absent on the lines, on our win against Utah almost without Roy at all?

breaker91 · Post #5 » by **breaker91** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:35 pm

^ you are wrong, Demopolaus was coaching in SLC when the Jazz beat the Blazers. Roy was out for a home game that we won. That was the game where Martell scored 24 in a quarter.

TBpup · Post #6 » by **TBpup** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:12 pm

At a certain point (about 3 games ago), Nate needs to accept that the playoffs are out of reach and start assigning playing time more vor development and evaluation. Two things that this season was supposed to be about anyway.

Too much too soon...Nate just figure out that the Blazers are a better defensive and rebounding team in the 4th quarter when Joel is on the floor. Baby steps my friend...

Napoleon7 · Post #7 » by **Napoleon7** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:16 pm

Rather than have Roy struggle through what seems to be a low point in his performance this year he should just sit out some games for awhile. This should coincide with Jones' return. Hey maybe even the Wafer trade was a means to allow us to rest Roy.

Sergio needs to get significant minutes in any minute reduction plan.

As much as I would like us to continue our push to attempt to makethe playoffs it is not going to happen.

Napoleon7 · Post #8 » by **Napoleon7** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:18 pm

Nate just figure out that the Blazers are a better defensive and rebounding team in the 4th quarter when Joel is on the floor. Baby steps my friend.

:bowdown:

Post #9 » by **Mr Odd** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:56 pm

TBpup wrote:
At a certain point (about 3 games ago), Nate needs to accept that the playoffs are out of reach and start assigning playing time more vor development and evaluation. Two things that this season was supposed to be about anyway.

Too much too soon...Nate just figure out that the Blazers are a better defensive and rebounding team in the 4th quarter when Joel is on the floor. Baby steps my friend...

ROFL!! Classic!!

I would of played Wafer 5mins for Roy.

ebott · Post #10 » by **ebott** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:11 pm

trentsdad wrote:PS-If someone can explain the Green trade please do, because I see absolutely no reason for doing it

I think this goes great with this thread.

The only logical reason to trade Green for Wafer is that it was a roster balancing move. We have 4 point guards (Really 3 point guards cause Jack is a shooting guard in a point guard's body) and 1 shooting guard. And Roy acts like the point guard most of the time. So it makes sense that we'd trade a point guard for a shooting guard.

Nate is so into playing HIS guys that it doesn't matter. He's gonna keep playing Roy 40 minutes and Blake and Jack 30 or more. The sensible thing would be to actually play the backup shooting guard we just traded for. But I don't think that's gonna happen.

waverider · Post #11 » by **waverider** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:51 am

TBpup wrote:
At a certain point (about 3 games ago), Nate needs to accept that the playoffs are out of reach and start assigning playing time more vor development and evaluation. Two things that this season was supposed to be about anyway.

Too much too soon...Nate just figure out that the Blazers are a better defensive and rebounding team in the 4th quarter when Joel is on the floor. Baby steps my friend...

LMAO TB, sad but true. I like Nate but at times he seems very mule headed and very slow to figure things out and make changes. I'm hoping KP gives him some "words of wisdom", emphatically so if necessary!
And to another poster, I am not suggesting sitting ROY out any games, Just reduce his minutes and give those minutes to other guys for player development/evaluation. And don't play him in wasted minutes at the end of a game like he did last night is SEA.

Post #12 » by **mojomarc** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:58 am

Nate's performance shouldn't be all that shocking. As I've pointed out, his one really good season in Seattle was basically set during the first 36 games of the season and afterwards the Sonics were a .500 team with two all-stars. Nate has never actually had a full season as a head coach where he could get consistent winning out of his team (unless you want to count a 36 win season with no major streaks "consistent" in any sort of good way). This is because he is a very, very predictable coach. Even during the streak he was still running essentially the same three plays that he always ran, only the shots were falling, but in the last seven games the shots just haven't been there and Nate hasn't adjusted the offense to get easier shots despite everyone in the league now playing tight on his pick-and-roll.

He may be a great coach for teaching the basics but he seems quite lacking in the ability to get teams to a Masters/PhD level.

Post #13 » by **Mr Odd** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:11 am

Honestly my only hope for Nate is that
Pritchard just floods the team with so
many good players Nate wont be able
to screw things up with his coaching.. .

Only if Nate was as good at
coaching as he is a good guy.. .

TBpup · Post #14 » by **TBpup** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:59 am

Only if Nate was as good at
coach as he is a good guy.. .

Brilliant!

:starwars

Post #15 » by **Mr Odd** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:52 am

Oops, I forgot the ing in coach.. . :uhoh: