Agent: Artest probably won't opt out

[ICMTM]

Ballings I'm in the Arena for these games. I'm not speculating. Ron can't guard a true PF for 35 minutes. He can do it in stretches, but he can't do it WITH THE SUCCESS RATE that he does threes. Furthermore your links are two years old. The last thing is if playing Artest full time at the 4 was such a no brainer why hasn't it happened?

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'm right!

[Smills91]

Ballings I'm in the Arena for these games. I'm not speculating. Ron can't guard a true PF for 35 minutes. He can do it in stretches, but he can't do it WITH THE SUCCESS RATE that he does threes. Furthermore your links are two years old. The last thing is if playing Artest full time at the 4 was such a no brainer why hasn't it happened?

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'm right!

Not if you're disagreeing with me!

[SacKingZZZ]

Ron looks to do well against specific PF's from what I have seen, he gives fits to the ones that aren't all that tall like Boozer and Amare. But taking easily the most dominant perimeter defender and sticking him in the post is like trying to use Shaq as a 3-point specialist. Complete misuse of what makes him so special.

[Ballings7]

Ballings I'm in the Arena for these games. I'm not speculating.

Okay.

I've seen and remember the games I mentioned, and have gone off collective memory of games over time with Ron defending bigs for stretches. It's been established over the years he can effectively defend quite a few bigs, to a degree.

I never said you were speculating.

He can do it in stretches, but he can't do it WITH THE SUCCESS RATE that he does threes.

Yes. But that amount of doing so is still on a pretty consistent basis. Naturally and obviously he has better success, increased time against swingmen.

Furthermore your links are two years old.

It doesn't matter how old the games are. The links are two years old because that's when those two examples were from. That doesn't negate or lessen anything from what my intent of point and memory was. What happened, happened.

The last thing is if playing Artest full time at the 4 was such a no brainer why hasn't it happened?

No idea how this relates to my view-point.

I've never thought playing Ron at the 4 is a no-brainer. That specifically and the general idea, has been documented on this board, several times, too. Ron's primarily a small foward. It hasn't happened because he's generally not a PF. He can play it at certain times on a regular basis.

I don't like or agree with playing big SFs at the four unless it's out of necessity and/or for a short-term period. Doing anything more doesn't relate to legtimate winning-style basketball.

Phoenix found this out with Shawn Marion.

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'm right!

I'm right, too!

You're right in the way you specified it, which is for extended periods over a game - my point was Ron can't not guard bigs on a regular basis as a whole. Which what I intended, as I said earlier, is for selected/random possessions. Aside from that being how it is, that relates to the examples I put there and my memory of his defense against bigs.

I was also just partially posting to you, by the way.

[Hoops23]

NY Post

Artest, a Queensbridge product, will likely opt out and become a free agent and the KnicksNew York Knicks can offer him the five-year, $30 million mid-level exception as a free agent.

The Artest camp prefers the Knicks try to work a sign-and-trade with the Kings this July. But if not, the five-year mid-level could work if no other team is offering Artest a long-term contract.

"If there's a competitive offer on the table, the hometown team would become very appealing," Artest's agent Mark Stevens said.

Looks like Artest will ask for a sign and trade first, then if no deal happens, he will leave the Kings by signing with the MLE.

I think the Kings will consider a sign and trade than letting Artest walk for nothing.

[BMiller52]

NY Post

Artest, a Queensbridge product, will likely opt out and become a free agent and the KnicksNew York Knicks can offer him the five-year, $30 million mid-level exception as a free agent.

The Artest camp prefers the Knicks try to work a sign-and-trade with the Kings this July. But if not, the five-year mid-level could work if no other team is offering Artest a long-term contract.

"If there's a competitive offer on the table, the hometown team would become very appealing," Artest's agent Mark Stevens said.

Looks like Artest will ask for a sign and trade first, then if no deal happens, he will leave the Kings by signing with the MLE.

I think the Kings will consider a sign and trade than letting Artest walk for nothing.

The Artest camp never actually said that stuff... they just said he wouldn't be opposed to playing in NY if the offers are similar. I don't see anything wrong with that. They didn't say they were demanding a S&T to NY or anything, that's just BS from the NY papers.

[KingInExile]

NY Post

Artest, a Queensbridge product, will likely opt out and become a free agent and the KnicksNew York Knicks can offer him the five-year, $30 million mid-level exception as a free agent.

The Artest camp prefers the Knicks try to work a sign-and-trade with the Kings this July. But if not, the five-year mid-level could work if no other team is offering Artest a long-term contract.

"If there's a competitive offer on the table, the hometown team would become very appealing," Artest's agent Mark Stevens said.

Looks like Artest will ask for a sign and trade first, then if no deal happens, he will leave the Kings by signing with the MLE.

I think the Kings will consider a sign and trade than letting Artest walk for nothing.

Ok, your first mistake is that you are reading a NY Post article and you are actually believing what they write. Marc Berman is a fantasy fiction writer, not a sports journalist. Big distinction that is critical to understand.

[Rugged Ron Ron]

His agent stated that Artest is worth $13-$14mil a year. What make you think he'll sign for the MLE just because it's a hometown team?

Also, how stupid is this writer? Just the other day, the agent said they'll likely not opt out knowing the market is small for Ron, so Ron wont get the contract he wanted. That showed that they want to get PAID. What make this writer think, Ron will just accept the MLE now?

[Ballings7]

There really isn't any credibility for Ron to go to the Knicks other than the city connection.

[PaKwAn]

Im sorry for being stubborn to scan the other pages but does ron have the advantage in this situation?

[Sacramento_King]

Im sorry for being stubborn to scan the other pages but does ron have the advantage in this situation?

The only advantage he has is the choice to opt out or not. No other team has the money he is looking for. We would have to agree to a S & T that would help our team or he would sign for the MLE. Ron's best bet is to bust his butt for the next year and a half, keep his image clean and improve the team. Then he may get the big payday he is looking for.

[PaKwAn]

But what if he decides too long does that affect us from signing Beno right away? and if he signs for the MLE then what are we going to give to Beno?

[KingInExile]

But what if he decides too long does that affect us from signing Beno right away? and if he signs for the MLE then what are we going to give to Beno?

Signing one won't have an impact on our ability to sign the other. We have Artest's Bird rights, which means we can sign him to any deal up to the salary max and still sign Beno to any part of the MLE.

[PaKwAn]

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Signing one won't have an impact on our ability to sign the other. We have Artest's Bird rights, which means we can sign him to any deal up to the salary max and still sign Beno to any part of the MLE.

Thanks for the info,and i hope Beno wont ask too much or Petrie giving him the full MLE.

[Hoops23]

His agent stated that Artest is worth $13-$14mil a year. What make you think he'll sign for the MLE just because it's a hometown team?

Also, how stupid is this writer? Just the other day, the agent said they'll likely not opt out knowing the market is small for Ron, so Ron wont get the contract he wanted. That showed that they want to get PAID. What make this writer think, Ron will just accept the MLE now?

The Artest camp never actually said that stuff... they just said he wouldn't be opposed to playing in NY if the offers are similar. I don't see anything wrong with that. They didn't say they were demanding a S&T to NY or anything, that's just BS from the NY papers.

Ok, your first mistake is that you are reading a NY Post article and you are actually believing what they write. Marc Berman is a fantasy fiction writer, not a sports journalist. Big distinction that is critical to understand.

Whatever being said about Artest opting out and signing elswhere, either or both from NY Post or Knicks/Kings fans, it will be answered soon. Summer is just a couple of months away.
My bet is, Artest will not sign with the Knicks but to leave the Kings and accept a pay cut by signing with the entire MLE for a contender. I think playing for a contender will entice him signing for the MLE.

[BMiller52]

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Whatever being said about Artest opting out and signing elswhere, either or both from NY Post or Knicks/Kings fans, it will be answered soon. Summer is just a couple of months away.
My bet is, Artest will not sign with the Knicks but to leave the Kings and accept a pay cut by signing with the entire MLE for a contender. I think playing for a contender will entice him signing for the MLE.

He told ESPN he'll probably be in Sac another year.

[pillwenney]

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Whatever being said about Artest opting out and signing elswhere, either or both from NY Post or Knicks/Kings fans, it will be answered soon. Summer is just a couple of months away.
My bet is, Artest will not sign with the Knicks but to leave the Kings and accept a pay cut by signing with the entire MLE for a contender. I think playing for a contender will entice him signing for the MLE.

Both him and his agent have now said that he probably won't opt out, so I don't know what you're talking about.

And Ron won't do that. He has yet to receive a big payday in his career.

[Smills91]

Ron said the Nuggets probably didn't have the money to re-sign him if he had been traded to Denver, so that pretty much eliminates the Knicks and their MLE stance on things. This isn't an assumption here either, Ron said it with his own lips.

[Hoops23]

I understand why you