Corey Maggette's trade value

ponder276 · Post #1 » by **ponder276** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:30 am

With Maggette probably being a FA after this season, and Al Thornton emerging as a starter-quality SF, you'd have to think the Clips are looking into dealing Maggette before the deadline. What would they be looking for in return? An expiring + picks/prospects? Established players? Or do you think they'll try to re-sign him?

PlinkingPanda · Post #2 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:47 am

I'd want to resign him. He has developed a nice mid range jumper(it was only last year that people criticized him for not having any kind of jump shot at all).

Can Corey play SG at all? I could have swore he was a SG at some point. It would be nice to have Al starting at SF, and him at SG.

C:Kaman / Davis
PF:Brand / Thomas
SF:Thornton / Ross
SG:Maggette / Mobley
PG: Livingston / Knight

Damn good starting 5, and solid bench. :pray:

JJ LoDuca · Post #3 » by **JJ LoDuca** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:23 am

Fishy~McFish wrote:I'd want to resign him.

Me too. Corey's been the most tradeable asset the team has had in recent years, but one way or another he sticks around. I see the benefit of trading him for some young, hustlin' talent, but overall I'm a proponent of Maggs staying with us.

Fishy~McFish wrote:Can Corey play SG at all? I could have swore he was a SG at some point.

Yup, he's played some SG for the Clippers in his 8 years here. Most of his time at that spot was when Lamar Odom & them were here. SF is definitely Magg's natural position, but he is an able enough ball player to slide into the 2 spot if need be.

Bang' Em Smurf · Post #4 » by **Bang' Em Smurf** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:08 pm

Your 2 guard is typically one of the best shooters on the team. If there is any question of his shot, Maggette will not be the full time 2 on the Clips. That's why guys like Mobley live forever in the NBA, they can shoot.

Post #5 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:47 pm

corey maggette's trade value goes hand in hand with another player he was nearly traded for two years ago, mr. ron artest. both are putting up good numbers and have started to make teams forget about their negative past, regarding corey's injuries and artest's behavior. while they've both increased their trade value from two years ago when the two were nearly swapped for each other, their contract situation is helping drive their value back down to where it was when they both had red flags. both are expected to opt out of their contracts and become free agents this summer. as a result, both players have been widely regarded as "rentals" for the remainder of this season with fear of losing them for nothing this summer.

why do i bring up artest so much? with so many big names being traded, artest is a prime candidate to be next before a 2nd tier player like maggette, mike miller, etc. are moved. whatever sacramento gets for artest is probably very similar to what clippers fan should expect if we trade maggette by the deadline. so far, it looks like a late 1st and expirings is what we're looking at for maggette at the moment. if a team is super-confident they'll be able to resign maggette then maybe we get back a little more than that, but nothing exactly to write home about.

i'm pretty sure the clippers are done experimenting with corey at shooting guard, btw. i think corey is a goner unless management decides they like corey more than al and that the margin between the two is worth the tens of millions of dollars.

PlinkingPanda · Post #6 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:11 pm

Well Sterling has mentioned that they'll try to keep Corey. But to be honest I really think i'd prefer to have Al starting at SF. Corey tries to force things too much, and as much as I love his game it does irritate me at times. If we don't keep Corey I hope we can at least sign a good shooter. I think thats the only piece we're missing. PG may be questionable, but I believe in Shaun.

Post #7 » by **mkwest** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:03 am

I don't want to pull an Elgin and say I'm indifferent on re-signing him, but my opinion on him flip flops. How much will he ask for and for how
long? We have a nice young talented SF waiting in the wings which diminishes our need to re-sign Corey. Right now the minutes are able to be spread around but when EB comes back and claims his 36 mins what's going to happen to the remaining PT at the forward positions?

He's capable of playing minutes at SG but I don't think I'd really like to see
him there too often. I like Cuttino (his contract...not so much) but he's getting up there in age. We need youth in the backcourt. We need somebody that can shoot, which has already been mentioned. I'd be content if we could move Corey for Miller, but doubt that would happen. I'm hopeful that we can solidify the 2 in the draft, but you can't really start thinking about that for about 3 months from now.

adiedanny · Post #8 » by **adiedanny** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:54 am

Although I like the way Maggette has been playing lately. I would take a sraight up trade for Mike Miller. I think it is time to trade him and let Thornton become our starting SF.

Hoops23 · Post #9 » by **Hoops23** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:32 am

A team should be assured by Maggette that he will not opt out to his contract before trading for him. No team will give up something for someone that could leave them this summer. As someone ask, "why give up something you could get couple of months from now without giving something"?

What I dont understand is why did the Clippers owner turn down a Mags for Terry and a 1st pick.

Post #10 » by **Tommy Udo 6** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:36 pm

There are 8 key players who could opt out. Most of them will not - because they would have a hard time getting a salary close to what they are leaving on the table.

Of the 8, the one rated most likely to opt out is Maggette because of his bargain salary. Ron Artest is the second most likely.

One player normally not expected to opt out is Arenas - but since he has been writing that he will opt out, that must be considered.

The others include are J O'Neal, Baron Davis, Brand, and 2 others who I cant think of at the moment

Post #11 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:21 pm

Hoops23 wrote:
What I dont understand is why did the Clippers owner turn down a Mags for Terry and a 1st pick.

Long term salary committed to Terry, that would be the only reason that I can see. As far as Maggette goes I think its evident we need to trade him at the deadline. He can bring in the most via trade, Thornton is really emerging as a player and this team has a lot of holes.

jgustav1 · Post #12 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:33 pm

Hoops23 wrote:A team should be assured by Maggette that he will not opt out to his contract before trading for him. No team will give up something for someone that could leave them this summer. As someone ask, "why give up something you could get couple of months from now without giving something"?

What I dont understand is why did the Clippers owner turn down a Mags for Terry and a 1st pick.

Terry is a scoring PG/SG similar to a younger Sam Cassell. I like his game but the Clippers probably balked because of the long term salary they would have to take on. The Dallas #1 wouldn't get much since it would past the middle of the first round.

jgustav1 · Post #13 » by **jgustav1** » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:35 pm

adiedanny wrote:Although I like the way Maggette has been playing lately. I would take a sraight up trade for Mike Miller. I think it is time to trade him and let Thornton become our starting SF.

This doesn't make a lot of sense for Memphis, given the way Rudy Gay has been playing at SF. Miller is more comfortable at SG than Maggette is.

Post #14 » by **mkwest** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:32 am

jgustav1 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

This doesn't make a lot of sense for Memphis, given the way Rudy Gay has been playing at SF. Miller is more comfortable at SG than Maggette is.

There's been rumors of Miller being traded for Boki & Magloire who are expirings which Maggette basically is. Now they are probably looking for a pick as well (New Jersey will have a few of those after the Kidd trade), so that would be a problem for us.

realfung · Post #15 » by **realfung** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:48 pm

Trade him before he asked for a big contract

PlinkingPanda · Post #16 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:05 pm

realfung wrote:Trade him before he asked for a big contract

It's too late. He'll probably opt out at the end of the year since he's playing so damn well.

gmurray8 · Post #17 » by **gmurray8** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:05 am

I think Jason Terry would be a perfect fit for the Clippers... I would do Terry + 1st round pick for Maggette in a heartbeat... You can afford to lose Maggette because of Thornton.

PlinkingPanda · Post #18 » by **PlinkingPanda** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:51 am

gmurray8 wrote:I think Jason Terry would be a perfect fit for the Clippers... I would do Terry + 1st round pick for Maggette in a heartbeat... You can afford to lose Maggette because of Thornton.

We wouldn't need to trade a 1st rounder. There was a Maggette for Terry trade earlier this year, but Sterling blocked it cause he didn't want Terry's big and long contract from what I heard. I think we should have gone after one of Seattle's PGs. I kinda liked Delonte West. Too bad he's with the Cavs now. I'm sure he'll do a fine job there.

Or Jarret Jack. I like that guy's game too. Jack was kinda on the trading block for a little bit. From what I read they need to get rid of a few players cause they have a lot of international players/draft picks coming in within the next year or two.

madmaxmedia · Post #19 » by **madmaxmedia** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:52 pm

Magette's trade value (due to his contract) has been steadily dropping over the last 2 years even as his play has improved somewhat.

Since the trade deadline has passed, he has essentially zero trade value now. He is going to opt out and become an UFA, and I would say it's 90/10 he signs with a new team. I think he will leave with no hard feelings on either side, but there's been too much past history and some job insecurity going forward for him to come back.

Besides, in what universe are the Clippers going to be the highest bidder for Maggette when they have a good replacement prospect playing on a rookie contract? I think it's more like 97/3 that he leaves.

The seeds for this were sown when we drafted Thornton. It's good because we drafted a good replacement, it's bad because instead of Thornton adding to the Clipper talent pool, he basically replaces one of our better players.

Post #20 » by **loflin3hree5ive** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:48 pm

i doubt corey is planning on opting out with the expectations that another team will pay him more than the clippers. because the only teams that can do that are the nets and sixers, both of which have much larger needs than another small forward (sixers already have iggy/thad young, nets have rj).

so unless maggette wants to take a near $3 million paycut to sign somewhere else for the mid-level exception, he's either A) not going to opt out, B) hope the clippers give him a raise, or C) hope he can get the money he wants in a sign & trade. choice c is probably the most likely, but also the most risky. corey can only sign with teams the clippers want to do business with, heavily limiting his options.

corey can take a risk also by not opting out, assuming there will be more teams with cap space next summer. if he stays for a year he has a chance to increase his value by proving his health to the rest of the league for another year and has a chance to play an important role on a healthy, contending clippers team next year.

i'm just saying, we might be jumping to conclusions on corey's opt out.