Shaq lies: "Amaree is best big in the NBA"

[mattyBoi]

Couple points...

1. Dwight has almost 200 dunks already this year...Imagine how ridiculous that total would be if he had Nash running the point.

2. Dwight has been a better rebounder than Amare EVERY year and will continue to do so. 15 rpg!!! Thats unheard of nowadays.

3. Dwight starts over Amare on the USA National team for a reason.

4. Dwight is an INCREDIBLE defender. Most polls ive seen have him 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in the Defensive Player of the Year category. HOW CAN ANYONE CALL HIM A BAD DEFENDER??? This guy will win at least 3 DPOY's in his career.

5. 60% shooting...His post game is not THAT bad. If you watch the Magic consistently you would know that he has a nice hook with both hands and really is a pump fake away from being unstoppable. Wait till he gets strong enough to finish whenever he is fouled.

6. What Dwights offers more than anything is the intangibles. He flat out has a nose for the ball when it comes to rebounding. He can overpower ANYBODY. He times blocks perfectly. He runs the floor like a guard. And his clear out/clothesline that he uses on offense to create space is monsterous and has worked on everyone in the NBA. His nack for finding the alley-oop is underrated and incredible.

Dwight is the man, and from this point on, will always be.

[aleZ]

^^ lol talk about a lesson in homerism if ever we needed one

I still think Amare would fit better in SVG's system just because he's got better range, runs the floor more, has more offense etc plus the East is worse and he'd average something like 30/15. And no, he doesn't need Nash to be effective, like his first years in the L showed.

Everybody so sure Dwight would dominate in the Suns? I don't know, the West is like division A compared to Division B (the eastern conference) in the big men dept. Currently, Dwight has nearly to zero opposition when he gets inside.

Who's better? Hard to say, their playing style is different, their position too now that Shaq plays C, I think they're both right there in the top 5 with Duncan, Garnett and Bosh, ready to take over when the old guys will step down.

Shaq is a joker anyway

[lovehoops01]

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dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

Dwight has more than one offensive move. The majority of his scoring comes on dunks, and he's not a good jump shooter yet, but he has other moves.

And Shaq was a good passer, too. I haven't watched him enough lately to say if that's still true, but after his first season with the Magic and through his days with the Lakers and before the past couple seasons in Miami, he was a good passer.

Amare has never played on a bad team. He is a very good player, but having a team chocked full of talent around him his entire career makes him look even better.

As far as the theme of this thread goes, Shaq always says stuff like that when he joins a new team.

[Idunkonyou2]

Howard is better than Amare, KG and Duncan at this point in their careers. He has killed each of those guys every time he has played them this year. Hell I think he is averaging like a 32/20 against the Suns with Amare trying to guard him.

Sorry but Shaq is just talking out of his a$$ again. Howard is the best big in the game today and he is only 22 years old which makes him even more scary.

[Bensational]

if you only had 1 season to build the best team you could to win NOW, not in the future, but to contend this season, who would you pick?

i think i'd have to go with KG or Duncan, but it's a wash as to which one i'd choose first. only because you know that regardless of who is around them, their offensive games are good at finding guys as well as scoring points themselves. after those two i'd go for Dwight. certainly not Amare or Yao.

with that said, Dwight is hands down the best long term big man of the league right now. with a bit of spit and polish he'll be a HOFer and i'll be sure he'll be setting ridiculous Wilt Chamberlain/Bull Russell type stats and records.

[Happyfoosball]

^^ lol talk about a lesson in homerism if ever we needed one

I still think Amare would fit better in SVG's system just because he's got better range, runs the floor more, has more offense etc plus the East is worse and he'd average something like 30/15. And no, he doesn't need Nash to be effective, like his first years in the L showed.

Everybody so sure Dwight would dominate in the Suns? I don't know, the West is like division A compared to Division B (the eastern conference) in the big men dept. Currently, Dwight has nearly to zero opposition when he gets inside.

Who's better? Hard to say, their playing style is different, their position too now that Shaq plays C, I think they're both right there in the top 5 with Duncan, Garnett and Bosh, ready to take over when the old guys will step down.

Shaq is a joker anyway

WOW. Just WOW. Everyone takes their turns telling me how stupid I am, well to even SUGGEST Dwight wouldn't be successful with the Suns is (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Blatently (Please Use More Appropriate Word)! Dwight runs the floor better then anyone on Orlando's team. Doesn't matter what position they play, he runs the floor as well as any big i've ever seen. He'd own in the Suns offense.

And by the way, Amare will and never could average 30/15. But nice talking out of your ass.

**or you saying Amare would be better in Orl? Because I don't see that either. Dwights dominate down low. You want to hear Van Gundy bitch about defense more? Replace with Dwight with the great Amare and hear him roar because with that one roster spot Orlando might be one of the worst defensive teams of all time!

[Dome]

It amazes me this is actually being discussed...

[mfishy]

dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

That is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have seen posted....ever.

Shaq doesn't have the skill set of many players yet he is arguably the most dominate offensive center since Wilt. Skill set? WTF are you talking about? It's far better to absolutely dunk on someones head than take a soft fadeaway.

Richboy is annoying but he knows basketball. You are just a moron.

[CourtsideTV]

^ LOL..flaming war begins

[Happyfoosball]

I thought that a good offensive player takes the highest percentage shot. I'd take a dunk over some weak ass fade away. And lol at people saying Shaq was below par for the same reason. Shaq was one of the greatest centers of all time. Fade away jumpers = overated. Dunking = awesome!

[j-ragg]

I still think Amare would fit better in SVG's system just because he's got better range, runs the floor more, has more offense etc plus the East is worse and he'd average something like 30/15. And no, he doesn't need Nash to be effective, like his first years in the L showed.

You must be joking. 30/15? Amare will never average either of those, no matter what conference he plays in.

[aleZ]

nice talking out of your ass.

Happy, you've made a career out of stupid posts on RealGM and this one wasn't different. You wanna make sweet love to Dwight Howard? Fine with you, I'll keep watching the ENTIRE league without falling into deep homerism.

I've always liked Amare more than Dwight as a player and I'm still a Magic fan, whether the legions of 6 year olds in this thread like it or not. Oh, and the 30/15 part was an exageration, to hammer the point home.

Some of you guys are prolly running your brains on some f'd up diesel, you can't be so slow even if you're doing it on purpose.

[magicmamma]

I am sure that what Shaq actually said was perfectly correct, but the reporter accidentally left out a word from:

"Amare is the best flopping big in the NBA."

[oakfanintheeast]

dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

That is quite possibly the most ignorant thing I have seen posted....ever.

Shaq doesn't have the skill set of many players yet he is arguably the most dominate offensive center since Wilt. Skill set? WTF are you talking about? It's far better to absolutely dunk on someones head than take a soft fadeaway.

Richboy is annoying but he knows basketball. You are just a moron.

no one is talking about dominate, talking about skilled. Shaq is the most dominate, but shaq is 100x less skilled than yao. just like dwight might be more dominate but a lot less skilled than kg or td.

[MagiChamps]

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dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

no one is talking about dominate, talking about skilled. Shaq is the most dominate, but shaq is 100x less skilled than yao. just like dwight might be more dominate but a lot less skilled than kg or td.

Unless I missed something we're talking about who is the better offensive player. Domination and skill are both a part of that.

[Happyfoosball]

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Happy, you've made a career out of stupid posts on RealGM and this one wasn't different. You wanna make sweet love to Dwight Howard? Fine with you, I'll keep watching the ENTIRE league without falling into deep homerism.

I've always liked Amare more than Dwight as a player and I'm still a Magic fan, whether the legions of 6 year olds in this thread like it or not. Oh, and the 30/15 part was an exageration, to hammer the point home.

Some of you guys are prolly running your brains on some f'd up diesel, you can't be so slow even if you're doing it on purpose.

Nah man your the one who's wrong in this thread.

[Happyfoosball]

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no one is talking about dominate, talking about skilled. Shaq is the most dominate, but shaq is 100x less skilled than yao. just like dwight might be more dominate but a lot less skilled than kg or td.

We were talking about who the better player was, and we weren't even talking about who the better offensive player was. But if we were, we'd be talking about who the BETTER OFFENSIVE PLAYER was not the one with the prettiest jump shot. Results = offense. It doesn't matter if a guy can bounce a ball of his ass in to the basket, if he can do it for 30 ppg then he's a 30 ppg scorer. It's that simple whether you like it or not.

[MagiChamps]

dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

I think I have an analogy that might make sense here. Michael Jordan is considered by many people to be the best to ever play the game. While his skill set wasn't bad, I would say it's not quite on the level of smaller guards like Steve Nash or Chris Paul or Deron Williams. What separates Jordan from those guys is that he was bigger, he could fly, and he had the ability to just flat out take over a game. I would say that those three guys have better offensive skill sets, but are nowhere close to be as good offensive players as Jordan.

[MagiChamps]

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We were talking about who the better player was, and we weren't even talking about who the better offensive player was. But if we were, we'd be talking about who the BETTER OFFENSIVE PLAYER was not the one with the prettiest jump shot. Results = offense. It doesn't matter if a guy can bounce a ball of his ass in to the basket, if he can do it for 30 ppg then he's a 30 ppg scorer. It's that simple whether you like it or not.

Awesome sig.

[oakfanintheeast]

dude, dwight is as offensively limited as it comes. hes just so strong. shaq was the same way. Dwight has 1 offensive move. KG and TD have tons more. their offensive skill sets are laughable compared to dwight. better skill set= better offensive player. Dwight isn't on their planet.

I think I have an analogy that might make sense here. Michael Jordan is considered by many people to be the best to ever play the game. While his skill set wasn't bad, I would say it's not quite on the level of smaller guards like Steve Nash or Chris Paul or Deron Williams. What separates Jordan from those guys is that he was bigger, he could fly, and he had the ability to just flat out take over a game. I would say that those three guys have better offensive skill sets, but are nowhere close to be as good offensive players as Jordan.

why compare point guards to jordan? obviously they would have different skill sets. kobe would be a lot better to compare to jordan than point guards.