Jeff Van Gundy: "How do Riley & Wade lose 26/27 gam

MiamiHeatFan2004 · Post #1 » by **MiamiHeatFan2004** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:01 pm

During the Suns vs. Pistons game just now,

Jeff Van Gundy was discussing the best players and said Ginobili is the 2nd best SG in the NBA right now.

The other guy asked, "How about Dwayne Wade?"

Van Gundy said, "Wade...???? Now you got my blood boiling, you don't lose 26/27 games and be the best at anything. It is mind boggling to me how Riley and Wade can only have 9 wins in a weak East, their players are not that bad."

The other guy then said "Yea you could stumble on more wins than that by mistake........"

Everybody sees it. We should have more wins even with Wade at 80%. Riley is being ignored by a lot of his players and many of them are not even trying anymore like Jwill. We lack leadership on the court as well, Wade is not acting like a leader at all.

vincent · Post #2 » by **vincent** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:27 pm

I like to be the first to say

JEFF has a valid point........
but as Heat Fan we know the season is all about watchin
what we got
and who can we depend on..

Next season,
not just WaDE but Dorell and Haslem need to step it up
that's if Pat don't trade they a z z .....

WE have made these next 3 season all about keep WADE .WE need to make these next 3 season ABOUT BUILDING A TEAM
I luv DW3 as a Basketball player but WADE not a leader YET

Marion came in the first day and took over as the inspiration leader

nycballer718 · Post #3 » by **nycballer718** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:48 pm

MiamiHeatFan2004 wrote:During the Suns vs. Pistons game just now,

Jeff Van Gundy was discussing the best players and said Ginobili is the 2nd best SG in the NBA right now.

The other guy asked, "How about Dwayne Wade?"

Van Gundy said, "Wade...???? Now you got my blood boiling, you don't lose 26/27 games and be the best at anything. It is mind boggling to me how Riley and Wade can only have 9 wins in a weak East, their players are not that bad."

The other guy then said "Yea you could stumble on more wins than that by mistake........"

Everybody sees it. We should have more wins even with Wade at 80%. Riley is being ignored by a lot of his players and many of them are not even trying anymore like Jwill. We lack leadership on the court as well, Wade is not acting like a leader at all.

you answered your own question no one is trying anymore its called tanking , heta have nothing to play for 9 wins is the same as 18 wins if it wasnt then heat would be actually trying to win instead just lose , its pretty evident now their tanking they stay close throughout the game and just stop playing d in the 4th

CoolD · Post #4 » by **CoolD** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:14 pm

Am pretty sure, this thread has a subliminal meaning, I think is saying again LeBron is better than Wade. We know your infatuation with pointing out how much better LeBron is over Wade, and how much Wade sucks.

The guy has a point, their is no reason why a team should suck thist much though, but the funny thing with this pundits are the same guys that licking up on Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett right know, when last year they were in some of the worst teams.

Am just waiting for Riley to give Wade a pointguard, and some defensive help, and half this people could back to their caves and hide.

Flash4thewin · Post #5 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:27 pm

Its clear were tanking and Wade should sit out the rest of the season. The only problem is that even tanking Pat inability to play rookies flys in the face of common sense. :banghead:

MiamiHeatFan2004 · Post #6 » by **MiamiHeatFan2004** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:46 pm

CoolD wrote:Am pretty sure, this thread has a subliminal meaning, I think is saying again LeBron is better than Wade. We know your infatuation with pointing out how much better LeBron is over Wade, and how much Wade sucks.

The guy has a point, their is no reason why a team should suck thist much though, but the funny thing with this pundits are the same guys that licking up on Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett right know, when last year they were in some of the worst teams.

Am just waiting for Riley to give Wade a pointguard, and some defensive help, and half this people could back to their caves and hide.

Dude get off my nuts huh? Whoever you are stop coming in my threads and making trouble please.

I was watching the Suns game and Jeff van Gundy said something about our team, Wade and Riley, so I posted what they said.

Also, learn to write English better I can barely understand half of your posts.

MiamiHeatFan2004 · Post #7 » by **MiamiHeatFan2004** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:48 pm

nycballer718 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you answered your own question no one is trying anymore its called tanking , heta have nothing to play for 9 wins is the same as 18 wins if it wasnt then heat would be actually trying to win instead just lose , its pretty evident now their tanking they stay close throughout the game and just stop playing d in the 4th

I didn't ask any question in this thread, it was Van Gundy and the ABC broadcast team that was asking questions about why Wade and Riley can't get more wins.

I know we are tanking it and not trying, I watch all of our games, they probably don't. So, they just don't understand how a coach with so much pride and so many wins and a player that has always been a winner can just accept all this losing and give up so easily.

Post #8 » by **GameTime_3** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:51 pm

Or you can go with what charles barkley said

"They are tanking man"

kenny responds

"No they are not,They are just playing lazy"

Barkley

"Man that is tanking,They are not trying to win and if i was on there team i would be doing the same"

WadeKnicks2010 · Post #9 » by **WadeKnicks2010** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:46 am

Ginobili is the 2nd best SG in the NBA?

I wonder what Wade would do with Duncan, Parker, Bowen, Horry, and the rest of that supporting cast against the Mavericks in the 2006 playoffs.. hmmm

Heat3 · Post #10 » by **Heat3** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:04 am

Van Gundy has an agenda against Riley since Stan was shown the door.

Max · Post #11 » by **Max** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:21 am

Van Gundy can have an agenda, but he has a point

Not even Lebron or Kobe as bad as their teams were at some point, lost 26 of 27

Wade is not the 2nd best SG in the NBA, he is not himself this season.

We have to see what happens next season and what type of help Riley gives to make this team better but Miami won't have many cap unless Marion opts and that's a stretch because not many teams can offer good money

pramis123 · Post #12 » by **pramis123** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:55 am

Man has a point, which is why I would immediately put Wade on IR for the rest of the season so he can heal and be ready for next year.

nycballer718 · Post #13 » by **nycballer718** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:23 am

Max wrote:Van Gundy can have an agenda, but he has a point

Not even Lebron or Kobe as bad as their teams were at some point, lost 26 of 27

Wade is not the 2nd best SG in the NBA, he is not himself this season.

We have to see what happens next season and what type of help Riley gives to make this team better but Miami won't have many cap unless Marion opts and that's a stretch because not many teams can offer good money

again with the lebron/kobe comparisn , how about the fact that both are better then wade this year ?? by a pretty wide margin maybe thats why ..its evident wade isnt as good as he was last season where losing 26 of 27 wouldnt happen and where he was probably better then lebron and almost as good as kobe ...this year he even said it himself that he cannot be the hero of this team and just carry them win after win like he used to he needed someone else to step up which so far into this nightmare no one has done so.

Heat3 · Post #14 » by **Heat3** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:01 am

Offer Pop a straight up deal: Wade for Manu and you better believe he takes it.

Max · Post #15 » by **Max** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:56 am

I'm not saying Manu is the 2nd best or something, I'm not comparing either, I'm just saying that Wade is not Wade this year and if we are the ones that criticize Lebron or Kobe when their team don't do well or in Kobe's case how many years he was bashed for not making his teammates better then why is not the same with Wade?? Yes, he dosen't have a good team, yes he is injured and I'm not putting all this blame on him but this is not a 9-win team.....

MiamiHustlin · Post #16 » by **MiamiHustlin** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:04 am

van gundy is only saying manu is the second best cause hes been hot lately, i know he cant really mean that.

Miami's Finest · Post #17 » by **Miami's Finest** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:58 am

Coaching but I believe Charles is right...

"Let's call it what it is. They are tanking the season in order to get the lottery pick.

Post #18 » by **dflash3** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:13 am

^I wish we could tank with Cook and Wright having more plays run for them and Wade getting less minutes.

CoolD · Post #19 » by **CoolD** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:23 am

Attack the post, not the poster. Don't nobody wants to come into a thread and start reading other people attacking other posters about being LeBron fanboys, or getting off someone's nuts.

Flash4thewin · Post #20 » by **Flash4thewin** » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:34 pm

We all understand that Tanking is the best thing for this team, the problem is Pats inability for what ever reason to develop Cook and play Dorell. Dorell has monster double double games and then vanishes to the bench in favor for Ricky Davis? WTF is up with that? We are a rebuilding team, if Pat the coach cant handle this he should retire again. The last thing we need is for him to mess around with our lottery pick growth next season.