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Post#21 » by BasketBrain » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:29 pm

Devin Harris can be compared to Tony Parker, only Devin is a slightly better defender then Tony.
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Post#22 » by G_MoNeY » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:33 pm

well that's good, cause Devin won't be looking to create his own jumpshot. He'll get many open looks from VC and RJ.
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Post#23 » by shaw-xx » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:17 pm

http://www.nba.com/hotspots/
Both players are listed on the Mavs team. Choose 2007-08 season, BTW.

I don't understand at all. After having watched almost his every pro game, I found his jump shooting finally having improved this season. That's too much to say about Devin? He shoots a little better than Kidd NOW. Period.
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Post#24 » by EFF » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:48 pm

Even if it's true that Devin doesnt shoot too much better than Kidd, the fact that he drives and finishes/gets to the line forgives that flaw because at the end of the day, Devin puts the ball in the basket more than Kidd does. Throw in the passing and then who knows but as far as individual offense goes, Devin is better. With VC around, if he can be a decent spot up shooter, we're fine. If VC had been traded, then we'd be screwed.
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Post#25 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:42 pm

Just the fact that this guy can, defend, get to the basket and shoot "a little better" than Kidd is good enough for me!!
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Post#26 » by Adam1221 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:52 pm

ATM his game is very simillar to Tony Parker's but he has the upside to be that much better.
With a team that's focused around him (the Nets) and with VC setting him up and drawing defenders for him to get a free drive to the basket expect his numbers to be that much better
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Post#27 » by SaintofKillers » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:33 am

shaw-xx wrote:http://www.nba.com/hotspots/
Both players are listed on the Mavs team. Choose 2007-08 season, BTW.


Uh, that is where I got my stats from.

shaw-xx wrote:I don't understand at all. After having watched almost his every pro game, I found his jump shooting finally having improved this season. That's too much to say about Devin? He shoots a little better than Kidd NOW. Period.


I'm one of the biggest Harris fans in the board and while his shooting did improve, I wouldn't say it's better than Kidd who, like I said, can hit jumpers off the dribble, from the post, et. al. while Harris can only knock down shots when he's completely wide-open as a result of Dirk being double/triple-teamed since no one respects his jumper at all -- and despite all that he's still shooting 36% :nonono:
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Post#28 » by netsforever » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:58 pm

Devin Harris

Best Case:
Tony Parker + a level on defense.

Worst Case:
Eric Snow

Best Predicted Season:
All-D 2nd team, 15 ppg, 3 rpg, 5 apg, 2 spg, 50% FG, 30% 3P.

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Post#29 » by SaintofKillers » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:05 am

netsforever wrote:Worst Case:
Eric Snow


Harris has achieved more in his second season than Snow has for his entire career.

A fair worst case scenario would be Robert Pack without the assists.
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Post#30 » by ITK9 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:32 pm

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Post#31 » by DH34Phan » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:08 pm

I would compare Devin to Chauncey Billups.

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Post#32 » by netsforever » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:11 pm

DH34Phan wrote:I would compare Devin to Chauncey Billups.

New Nets fan here too :)


Wow, KVH dunking in a Mavs uni? Impressive.

Also, Harris couldn't be more different then Billups.

Billups is a strong tweener who has a deadly three point stroke and a semi-decent post game.

Harris is a legitimate 1 who's very quick, but can't be relied on from much sort of range, and who gets pushed around frequently by guys like Billups, Kidd, Wade.

I can understand if you're comparing him in the sence that Billups didn't blossom until his 4th/5th season, and you think Harris will similarly improve his game and blossom in his 3rd/4th season with his own team in NJ... but other than that I don't see the comparison.
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Post#33 » by uesbc » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:27 pm

Devin is more like Kevin Johnson than Allen Iverson.
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Post#34 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:37 pm

I wouldn't even go that far uesbc. KJ could score his tail off and rack assists too
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Post#35 » by jerseyjac » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:35 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Just the fact that this guy can, defend, get to the basket and shoot "a little better" than Kidd is good enough for me!!


his ability to start a fastbreak will be key component of his game...obviously the drive and dish will become a regular thing for Harris and the Nets..

my comparison would be a Brent Barry type PG (for those who remember his days w/ the Sonics)...not as good of a shooter, but just as good of a passer, if not better...good court vision, plays well on the fast break and a longer lanky body that can rebound and defend most 1s and 2s well...
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Post#36 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:58 pm

Jac, I think Harris can get to the rack better than Barry.

If this kid has Barry's jumpshot i'd be doing cartwheels!! too bad. I'm telling you guys tho add him with what we have and we are gonna punch some teams in the mouth!!!!
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Post#37 » by jidan » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:46 pm

"Devin Harris can be compared to Tony Parker, only Devin is a slightly better defender then Tony."

yeah, mavs fans considered harris a tony parker lite on offense, and parker a devin harris lite on defense.
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Post#38 » by sweet daddy » Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:49 pm

Here's a Mavs fan's perspective:

Fast as hell. Hard to stay in front of on defense.
Great at breaking down opposing defense.
Fearless going to the basket.
Not a great outside shooter.
Not a great decision maker at the point (yet. maybe with time?). Skills are more physical than mental at this stage of his career.
Good defender, but not very strong. Can get pushed around.
Great teammate. His teammates love him.

He won't go down in history as a great point guard, but he's a quality player to have in your guard rotation. He deserves playing time. You'll end up glad he's on your team.

I hated to see him go, and wasn't really a fan of the trade, so obviously I like him as a player. For what it's worth, that's how I see it.
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