Crunch Time stats

[midranger]

But if its relevant for crunch time stats, it has to be relevant overall? Or neither can be relevant.

Not really.

If you play a lot of minutes on a bad team (frequent blowouts, etc....) it is entirely possible to have a terrible +/-.

The crunch time stat is a special case where both teams are likely to be playing their best players and at max effort. Garbage time, and reduced competition level don't really factor in.

Believe me, I had a heap of excuses for Redd's +/- that year.

[europa]

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Yeah, they were the top story on ESPN that night. Man, I was hyped about that team. For a bit.

Everything was cooking that night.

Redd had 30 (he shot 17 FT attempts); T.J. just missed a triple double with 16-14-9. Simmons dropped 22 points with 12 rebounds. Bogut had 13 and 9. Magloire had 6 turnovers.

The future looked pretty damn bright that night.

[pasting_monkeys]

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Bobby Simmons has the highest +/- in clutch time, in the league.

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[GrandAdmiralDan]

GAD needs to post the link to those old crunch time ratings....I know Redd was way up there.....if you do some google searches you find guys on other teams message boards posting stuff like this from April 2004.

"....Go on NBA.COM and look at the top leaders in the crunch time stats... DO YOU SEE KOBE BRYANT UP THERE?

SHANE BATTIER IS HIGHER THAN KOBE!!! But how can you not say that Kobe is the most clutch player in the league... I mean... MIKE REDD is #1 on that list. The NBA likes to use STATS to tell you who they think is clutch....."

But I can't find the season standings link from 2003 and 2004 though.

Redd was a clutch player under Karl and Porter. Redd's now screwed up, but so is the whole team......The question I'd ask is why was Redd so clutch in the 2003-04 season (his all-star year) and why so bad today? What things are different?

I know which link you are talking about, but I didn't save it anywhere, unfortunately.

I'm not sure if this is true, but I've heard that mods have a search function that regular users do not have (and the public search feature here absolutely sucks).
If so, perhaps you could find it.

I can give you a general time frame of when I posted it.
It was some time before our home game against the Kings, because I did a guest segment on the Post Game Show from Fantics after that game and Sparky and I were talking about it off the air during one of the commerical breaks. So I'm positive it was somewhere between that game and the game prior to it.
It was a page on 82games.com

Anyway, I was unable to find it.
I did manage to stumble across this page though:
http://www.82games.com/comm28.htm

That is not the link you are talking about that I posted before, but it is also interesting.

The main idea here is that Redd USED to be very clutch.
Drug Bust may be correct that things changed for him once he got the max contract. And another good point (from Sigra) might be that early in that first season of Redd's new max contract, Mo Williams established himself as a clutch shooter (vs. Pacers, @ Washington, etc.) whereas prior to that it was ONLY Redd who was a reasonable possibility. That may be a factor here too.
In any event, Redd's "clutchness" has fallen off of a cliff here.

[LUKE23]

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Everything was cooking that night.

Redd had 30 (he shot 17 FT attempts); T.J. just missed a triple double with 16-14-9. Simmons dropped 22 points with 12 rebounds. Bogut had 13 and 9. Magloire had 6 turnovers.

The future looked pretty damn bright that night.

Man that team should have been a lot better than it was, and I remember the excitement around here. I thought that was a good mix. TJ/Redd/Simmons/Magloire/Bogut with Bell/Smith/Mo the bench. Just seems like we're eternally cursed lately.